-- The Home Page of the Finishing Industry

on this site
current topics
Live! From beautiful Pine Beach New Jersey: Welcome to the world's most popular metal finishing website

topic 22551 p5

Is There a Danger in Cast Aluminum Cookware?

< Prev. page          (You're on the last page of the thread)

A discussion started in 2003 but continuing through 2019

June 26, 2016

Q. Hi Mr. Mooney,

I have my grandmother's large Club Aluminum stock pot. I use it often and love it. I read other cleaning suggestions posted under cleaning and polishing aluminum cookware but did not see anything that addresses my question. After the pot is dry, there are small white "flakes" that develop on the inside of the pot. Is there something I should be doing to keep this from happening? Does the presence of these flakes impact the pot's use? I.e., is the pot still safe to cook with?

22551-1a  22551-1b  22551-1c

I have attached several pictures which will, hopefully, help with identifying what these flakes are. It was put accidentally in the dishwasher -- my son was trying to help clean up his dinner party mess. =)

Thanks for the help,


Susie Gulick
- Broadview Heights, Ohio USA

June 2016

A. Hi Susie. If you look at those white spots with a magnifying glass, I think you will find that they are pits rather than flakes. I don't think you can make them go away because they are depressions in the aluminum. You can simmer vinegar in the pot for 15 minutes and see if there is improvement, but I doubt it.

I personally don't think the pits are a safety issue (it has been discussed earlier on this page), but once again, who am I? -- certainly not someone with medical & epidemiology expertise :-)


pic of Ted Mooney
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Striving to live "Aloha"

July 2, 2016

Q. I hope I'm not sounding too paranoid. That said, I started using a nasal bi-pap machine last year. Earlier this year, I began "purifying" the water that goes into the humidification tray by boiling it in a stove top pot (I had previously damaged this pot by over boiling ... fell asleep in the recliner, awoke and found the pot empty and sizzling).

Anyway, I noticed earlier this week that the "purified" water I was storing smelled like the inside of this pot ... now my fear, rational or not, is that I have been breathing this residue all night for several months. Incidentally, in that time I've developed tinnitus

My question, toxic pot = toxic water = me breathing it to my detriment?


Chuck Best
- Irving, Texas USA

November 15, 2016

Q. Hi,
I just bought the Crofton 11 inch Cast Aluminium Fry Pan from Aldi.

Anybody bought this too? I just learning about Cast Aluminium.
Interesting thread of comments. I bought it b/c it is so Light
as i hate how heavy Cast Iron is, although i know that it is better for you.

Nancy Smith
- NYC, New York USA

February 14, 2017

RE: ALUMINIUM HEALTH ISSUES a few medical journals as you keep requesting - as you say more medical facts needed:

Environmental Geochemistry and Health
March 1997, Volume 19, Issue 1, pp 00
Leaching of aluminium from cookwares
Rajwanshi, P., Singh, V., Gupta, M. et al. Environmental Geochemistry and Health (1997) 19: 0. doi:10.1023/A:1018466911282
Concern over the possible relation between environmental aluminium exposure and Alzheimer's disease has prompted studies of all forms of human intake of this element including that from foods. Aluminium cookware, apart from other sources of dietary aluminium, is considered to be a potential source of this metal to human beings. Various research groups have carried out aluminium leaching experiments with food, beverages and water under different experimental conditions modified by varying the level of pH, chloride, fluoride, citrate, acetate etc. The results reported by different workers show marked discrepancies in levels of leached aluminum. The apparent reason for such discrepancy in levels of aluminum leached can be attributed to factors such as non-systematic and non-uniform experimental designs, non-standard conditions maintained during the experiments and choice of method for aluminium analysis. In order to assess accurately the contribution of aluminium ingestion by human beings through aluminium cookware, the present review emphasizes the need of i) standard size aluminium plates obtained from the same lot for one set of experimentations; ii) real life cooking conditions to highlight the role of various complexing species present in food e.g. citrate, oxalate, acetate, tartrate etc.; iii) role of chemistry of aluminium in presence of acidic, basic and neutral cooking medium and iv) strict analytical control in the estimation of aluminium. Results of a systematic study by the authors conducted on the above-mentioned lines are also described.
1. Alfrey, A.C., LeGendre, G.R. and Kaehny, W.D. 1976. The dialysis encephalopathy syndrome -- possible aluminium intoxication. New England Journal of Medicine, 294, 184-188.
2. Alfrey, A.C. 1984. Aluminium intoxication. New England Journal of Medicine, 310, 1113-1115.
3. Arieff, A.I., Cooper, J.D., Armstrong, D. and Lazarowitz, V.C. 1979. Dementia, renal failure and brain aluminium. Ann. Intern. med., 90, 741-747.
4. Baxter, M.J., Burrell, J.A. and Massey, R.C. 1988. The effects of fluoride on the leaching of aluminium saucepans during cooking. Food Additives and Contaminants, 5(4), 651-656.
5. Beal, G.D., Unangst, R.B., Wigman, H.B. and Cox, G.J. 1932. Aluminium content of foodstuffs cooked in glass and in aluminium. Industrial and Engineering Chemistry, 24, 405-407.
6. Berylene, G.M., Ari, B.J., Pest, D., Weinberger, J., Stern, M., Gilmore, G.R. and Levine, R. 1970. Hyperaluminalmia from aluminium resins in renal failure. Lancet, 2, 494.
7. Bhamra, R K. and Costa, M. 1992. Environmental Toxicants: Human Exposures and their Health Effects, Van Nostrand Reinhold, New York, p. 575-633.
8. Bohni, H and Uhlig, H.H. 1969 Environmental factors affecting the critical pitting potential of aluminium. J. Electrochem. Soc. 116, 906.
9. Bugiani, O. and Ghetti, B. 1982. Progressing encephalomyelopathy with muscular atrophy, induced by aluminium powder. Neurobiological Ageing, 3, 209-222.
10. Cameron, A.D. and Ineson, P.R. 1986. Hydrogeochemical studies for aluminium, fluoride and iron in waters supplying haemodialysis units in the Trent region, UK. Environment Geochemical Health, 8, 83-90.
11. Campbell, P.G.C., Bisson, M., Bougie, R., Tessier, A. and Villeneuve, J.P. 1983. Speciation of aluminium in acidic freshwaters. Analytical Chemistry, 55, 2246-2252.
12. Candy, J.M., Klinowski, J., Perry, R.M., Perry, E.K., Fairbairn, A., Oakley, A.E., Carpenter, T.A., Atack, J.R., Blessed, G. and Edwardson, J.A. 1986. Aluminosilicates and senile plaque formation in Alzheimer's disease. Lancet, 15 February, 354-356.
13. Cochran, M., Coates, J. and Neoh, S. 1984. The competitive equilibrium between aluminium and ferric ions for the binding sites of transferrin. FEBS Lett, 176, 129-132.
14. Code of Federal Regulations. 1985. Food and Drugs, Title 21, Chapter 1: Food and Drug Administration. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Federal Register. National Archives and Records Administration. Washington DC (revised April 1).
15. Coriat, A.M. and Gillard, R.D. 1986. Beware the cups that cheers. Nature, 321, 570.
16. Cotton, A. and Wilkinson, G. 1980. Advanced Inorganic Chemistry: A Comprehensive Text, 4th ed. John Wiley and Sons, New York.
17. Coyle, J.T., Price, D.L. and Delong, M.R. 1983. A disorder of cortical cholinergic innervation. Science, 219, 1184-1190.
18. Crapper, D.R., Krishnan, S.S. and Dalton, A.J. 1973. Brain, aluminium distribution in Alzheimer's disease and experimental neurofibrillary degeneration. Science, NY 180, 511-513.
19. Crapper, D.R., Krishnan, S.S. and Quittkat, S. 1976. Aluminium, neurofibrillary degeneration and Alzheimer's disease. Brain, 99, 67-80.
20. Dent, C.E. and Winter, C.S. 1974. Osteomalacia due to phosphate depletion from excessive aluminium hydroxide ingestion. British Medical Journal, 1, 551-552.
21. Department of National Health and Welfare. 1981. Food and Drug Regulations: Part B, Division 16 -- Food Additives. Supply and Services, Ottawa, Canada.
22. Dinman, B.D. 1987. Aluminium in the lung: the pyropowder conundrum. J. Occup. Med. 30, 869-886.
23. Dinman, B.D. 1988. Aluminium related pulmonary disease. J. Occup. Med. 30, 328-335.
24. Driscoll, C.T., Baker, J.P., Bisogni, J.J. and Schofield, C.L. 1980. Effect of aluminium speciation on fish in dilute acidified waters. Nature, 284, 161-164.
25. Driscoll, C.T. 1985. Aluminium in acidic surface waters: chemistry, transport and effects. Environmental Health Perspectives, 63, 93-104.
26. Duffield, J.R. and Williams, D.R. 1988. Aluminium in the food and the environment. In: Massey, R.C. and Taylor, D. (eds), Aluminium in Food and the Environment, Special Publ. No. 73, pp. 1-5. Royal Society of Chemistry.
27. Edwardson, J.A., Oakley, A.E., Pullen, R.G.L., McArthur, F.K., Morris, E.M., Taylor, G.A. and Candy, J.M. 1988. Aluminium and pathogenesis of neurodegenerative disorders. In: Massey, R.C. and Taylor, D. (eds), Aluminium in Food and the Environment, Special Publ. No. 73, pp. 20-36. Royal Society of Chemistry.
28. Ellinger, R.H. 1972. Phosphates as Food Ingredients. CRC Press, Cleveland OH, pp. 32 and 72.
29. Evenshtein Z.M. 1971. On preservation of ascorbic acid in food thermally processed in enamelled and aluminium containers. Hygiene and Sanitation, 36, 461-464.
30. Fairweather-Tait, S.J., Faulks, R.M., Fatemi, S.J.A. and Moore, G.R. 1987. Aluminium in the diet. Human Nutrition: Food Sciences and Nutrition, 41F, 183-192.
31. Galvele, J.R., Michellide, S.M., Muller, I.L., De Wexler, S.B. and Alanis, I.L. 1974. Critical potential for localized corrosion of aluminium alloys in localized corrosion; Brown, B.F., Krugger, J. and Stachle, R.W. (eds), National Association of Corrosion Engineers, p. 580.
32. Ganrot, P.O. 1986. Metabolism and possible health effects of aluminium. Environment Health Perspectives, 65, 363-441.
33. Gormican, A. 1970. Inorganic elements in foods used in hospital menus. Journal of American Dietic Association, 56, 397-403.
34. Gorsky, J.E., Dietz, A.E., Spencer, H. and Osis, D. 1979. Metabolic balance of aluminium studied in six men. Clinical Chemistry, 25, 1739-1743.
35. Greger, J.L., Goetz, W. and Sullivan, D. 1985. Aluminium levels in foods cooked and stored in aluminium pans, trays and foil. Journal of Food Protection, 48, 772-777.
36. Hazelton Laboratories America, Inc, 1984. Determination of Aluminium Uptake by Foods Cooked in Aluminium Utensils. Madison, Wisconsin.
37. Hollingsworth, E.H. and Hunsicker, H.Y. 1983. Aluminium alloys. In: Schweitzer, P.A. (ed), Corrosion and Corrosion Protection Handbook, Marcel Dekker Inc., New York. pp. 111-145.
38. Information Section. 1993. Aluminium and Alzheimer's disease -- an update Food and Chemical Toxicology, 31(9), 679-685.
39. Kaehny, W.D., Hegg, A.P. and Alfrey, A.C. 1977. Gastrointestinal absorption of aluminium from aluminium containing antacids. New England Journal of Medicine, 296(24), 1389-1390.
40. Kaesche, H. 1963. Investigation of uniform dissolution and pitting of aluminium electrodes, Werkst Korros, 14, p. 557.
41. Khattab, F.I., Ellaithy, M.M., ElNaggar, R M. and Amer, M.M. 1984. Determination of trace metals in canned foods used in Egypt. II: using polarographic techniques. Egyptian Journal of Food Science, 12(12), 29-41.
42. Koning, J.H. 1981. Aluminium pots as a source of dietary aluminium (letter). New England Journal of Medicine, 304, 172-173.
43. Leonard, A. and Gerber, G.B. 1988. Mutagenicity, carcinogenicity and teratogenicity of aluminium. Mutation Research, 196, 247-257.
44. Levick, S.E. 1980. Dementia from aluminium pots? (letter). New England Journal of Medicine, 303, 164.
45. Lind, C.J. and Hem J.D. 1975. Effects of organic solutes on chemical reactions of aluminium. US Geological Survey Water Supply Paper, 1827-G Washington DC, p. 83.
46. Lione, A. and Smith, J.C. 1982. The mobilization of aluminium from three brands of chewing gum. Food and Chemical Toxicology, 20, 945-946.
47. Lione, A. 1983. The prophylactic reduction of aluminium intake. Food and Chemical Toxicology, 21(1), 103-109.
48. Lione, A. 1984. Letter to the Editor. Nutrition Reviews, 42, 31.
49. Lione A. 1985. Aluminium toxicology and the aluminium-containing medication. Pharmacology and Therapeutics, 29, 255-285.
50. Liukkonen-Lilja, H. and Piepponen, S. 1992. Leaching of aluminium from aluminium dishes and packages. Food Additives and Contaminants, 9(3), 213-223.
51. Martin. R.B., Savory, J., Brown, S., Berthoff, R.L. and Wills, M.R. 1987. Transferrin binding of Al3+ an Fe3+. Clinical Chemistry, 33, 405-407.
52. Martyn, C.N., Osmond, C., Edwardson, J.A., Barker, D.J.P., Harris, E.C. and Lacey, R.F. 1989. Geographical relation between Alzheimer's disease and aluminium in drinking water. Lancet, 1, 59-62.
53. Matsumoto, H., Hirasawa, E., Morimura, S. and Takahashi, E. 1976. Localization of aluminium in tea leaves. Plant Cell Physiology, 17, 627.
54. Matsushima, F., Meshitsuka, S., Funakawa, K. and Nose, T. 1990. Effects of sodium chloride, acetic acid and citric acid on the dissolution of aluminium from aluminium cooking utensils. Japan Journal of Hygiene, 45(5), 964-970.
55. Maugh, T.H. 1984. Acid rain's effects on people assessed. Science, 226, 1408-1410.
56. McDermott, J.R., Smith, A.D. Iabel, K. and Wisniewski, H.M. 1979. Brain aluminium in aging and Alzheimer disease. Neurology, 29, 809-814.
57. Metals handbook (1987) 9th edition, Volume 13: Corrosion. ASM International, Metals Park. OH, pp. 583-609.
58. Moody, G.H., Southam, J.C., Buchan, S.A. and Farmer, J.G. 1990. Aluminium leaching and fluoride. British Dental Journal, 169, 47-50.
59. Ondreicka, R., Kortus, J. and Ginter, E. 1971. Aluminium: its absorption, distribution and effects of phosphorus metabolism. In: Skoryna, S.C. and Edward, D.W. (eds), Intestinal Absorption of Metal Ions, Trace Elements and Radionuclides, Pergamon Press, New York.
60. Penna, R.P. 1979. Handbook of Nonprescription Drugs, 6th Ed. American Pharmaceutical Association, Washington DC.
61. Pennington, J.A.T. 1983. Revision of the total diet study food lists and diets. Journal of the American Dietic Association, 82(2), 166-173.
62. Pennington, J.A.T. 1987. Aluminium content of foods and diets. Food Additives and Contaminants, 5(2), 161-232.
63. Perl, D.P. and Brody, A.R. 1980. Alzheimer's disease: X-ray spectrophotometric evidence of aluminium accumulation in neurofibrillary tangle bearing neurons. Science, 208, 297-299.
64. Platts, M.M., Grech, P, McManners, T. and Cochran, M. 1973. Skeletal changes in patients treated by regular haemodialysis in the Sheffield area. British Journal of Radiology, 43, 585-593.
65. Platts M.M., Goode, G.C. and Hislop, J.S. 1977. Composition of the domestic water supply and the incidence of fracture an encephalopathy in patients on home dialysis. British Medical Journal, 2, 657-660.
66. Poe, C.F. and Leberman, J.M. 1949. The effects of acid foods on aluminium cooking utensils. Food Technology, 3(2), 71-74.
67. Rajwanshi, P. 1995. Studies on the interaction of aluminium and fluoride in common dietary items. PhD thesis submitted to Dayalbagh Educational Institute Dayalbagh, Agra, India.
68. Rao, J.K.S. and Radhakrishnamurty, R. 1990. Aluminium leaching from utensils during cooking and storage. Environment and Ecology, 8(1), 146-148.
69. Roberson, C.E. and Hem, J.D. 1967. Solubility of aluminium in the presence of hydroxide, fluoride and sulphate. US. Geological Survey Water Supply Paper 1827-C, Washington DC, p. 37.
70. Samsahl, K and Wester, P.O. 1977. Metallic contamination of food during preparation and storage: development of methods and some preliminary results. Science of the Total Environment, 8, 165-177.
71. Savory, J., Nicholson, J.R. and Wills, M.R. 1987. Is aluminium leaching enhanced by fluoride? Nature, 327, 107-108.
72. Schauer, C.G. 1948. Pulmonary changes encountered in employees engaged in manufacture of aluminium abrasives: clinical and roentgenologic aspects. J. Occup. Med. 5, 718-728.
73. Seruga, M., Grgic, J. and Mandic, M. 1994. Aluminium content of soft drinks from aluminium cans. Z. Lebersm. Unters. Forsch. 198, 313-316.
74. Severus, H. 1988. The use of aluminium -- especially as packaging material in the food industry. In: Massey, R.C. and Taylor, D. (eds), Aluminium in Food and the Environment, Special Publication No. 73, Royal Society of Chemistry, pp. 88-101.
75. Sherlock, J.C. 1988. Aluminium in foods and the diet. In: Massey, R.C. and Taylor, D. (eds), Aluminium in Food and the Environment, Special Publication No. 73, Royal Society of Chemistry, pp. 68-761.
76. Stewart, W.K. 1988. Aluminium toxicity in individuals with chronic renal disease. In: Massey, R.C. and Taylor, D. (eds), Aluminium in Food and the Environment, Special Publication No. 73, Royal Society of Chemistry, pp. 6-19.
77. Tennakone, K. and Wickramanayake, S. 1987a. Aluminium leaching from cooking utensils. Nature, 325, 202.
78. Tennakone, K. and Wickramanayake, S. 1987b. Aluminium and cooking. Nature, 329, 398.
79. Tennakone, K., Wickramanayake, S. and Fernando, C.A.N. 1988. Aluminium contamination from fluoride assisted dissolution of metallic aluminium. Environmental Pollution, 49, 133-143.
80. Thurston, H., Gihore, G.R. and Swales, J.D. 1972. Aluminium retention and toxicity in chronic renal failure. Lancet, i, 881-883.
81. Trapp, G.A. and Cannon, J.B. 1981. Aluminium pots as a source of dietary aluminium. New England Journal of Medicine, 304, 172.
82. Watanabe, S. and Dawes, C. 1988. The effect of pH and fluoride on leaching of aluminium from cooking utensils. Fluoride, 21, 58-59.
83. Wisniewski, H.M., Sturman, J.A. and Shek, J.W. 1982. Chronic model of neurofibrillar changes induced in mature rabbits by metallic aluminium. Neurobiological Ageing, 3, 11-12.
84. Zatta, P., Giorgdano, R., Corian, B. and Bombi, G.G. 1988. Alzheimer's dementia and the aluminium hypothesis. Medical Hypothesis, 26, 139-142.

- London UK

Ed. note: Thanks John!

February 22, 2017

Q. Is Forged aluminium cookware safe?

Ivy Sew
- Batu Caves, Malaysia

March 8, 2017

A. Hi,

I am a retired chemical engineer (PhD) and geologist and now spend my time managing a chain of my high end restaurants on the west coast. I have not read anywhere in the posts on your thread about commercial and industrial installations that prepare and cook almost all of the food we eat as a people in restaurants, packages, fast food, etc. Without exception, any commercially viable entity that prepares and deals with food items for human consumption uses aluminum cooking utensils (pots, pans, spoons, forks, etc.). Though there is a large proponent of these institutions that would like to use stainless steel (and some are mandated by federal law to do so), the use of stainless steel is cost prohibitive and it does not cook as well or as fast (and BELIEVE me, time IS money in commercial/industrial kitchens).

So, if any of your readers ever buys takeout, eats at a restaurant, fast food establishment or buys prepared food items, they are consuming minuscule amounts of aluminum from the cookware these foods were prepared in. No, you cannot get away from aluminum in your food, at least not unless you live in Antarctica and hunt your own fish (but mercury is a big concern there).

Aluminum cookware heats more evenly, cooks better and lasts a long time, it is lighter to handle and simpler to clean using an abrasive powder and a scrub pad. Use your nice aluminum cookware, enjoy the ease of cooking it provides. As mentioned before, storing acidic foods in aluminum pots for more than a few hours is poor form as it will tend to pit the surface of the pots. The Internet is chock full of all kinds of people with zero to no scientific credentials, have limited or no common sense and this type of person is most apt to raise all kinds of concerns without being able to substantiate any of their claims.

There is not causal proof that aluminum is related to Alzheimer's, is the aluminum in the brain tissue before or after the disease? Who cares. We all use smart/cellphones, and these emit harmful EM radiation, and countless studies have published articles on both sides of this debate, but we don't stop using them, do we? Same goes for all of the EM radiation created by electrical conductors in our homes, businesses and workplaces. But do we stop living in our homes, work or play in buildings because there is a potential of cancer from EM radiation from electrical wires?

Wake up people, the earth is heated by decomposing radioactive elements in the mantle. The greatest cause of all plant and animal mutations on earth is the naturally occurring radiation from the same planet we live on that radiates to the surface of the crust. It has been for billions of years. Along with solar wind, neutrinos, charmed particles and all sub-atomic particles, we live in a dangerous universe (including the effect of gravity on our bodies). Minuscule aluminum atoms from aluminum pots, pans and utensils should not be a concern for your health and well-being.

My dad is 99 years old, has a better memory than I do, is completely lucid, still drives legally and has eaten from aluminum pots for over 60 years, and still does, as does his entire family. Same for my mom who died from a drunk driver at 94.

I will continue to use my aluminum cookware for myself, family and friends.


Michel Fortier
- Denver, Colorado, USA

May 2, 2017

thumbs up signThanks Michel for your generous explanation.

Ivy Sew [returning]
1963 - Batu Caves, Malaysia

July 19, 2017

Q. I recently acquired a Club Aluminum Dutch oven that had been left outside for an unknown amount of time. I have read the cleaning advice on this website and will follow it accordingly. It is actually in very good shape. However, my question is should I be concerned about the safety of using it since it was exposed to the outdoor elements?

CJ Lewis
- Baxley, Georgia

December 20, 2017

silly :-) Automobiles have been involved in many deaths. Perhaps we should go back to horses and/or mules or donkeys.

mary ann nelson
pharmacist ret. - Freeport, Illinois USA

December 30, 2017

After watching a video on how to test aluminum for toxicity I came to the internet to look for answers on why some aluminum cookware is different than others. The test on the cookware was done as follows. There were six pieces of cookware ranging from a small cup to a large pot with all but one piece being stamped aluminum and one being an old cast pot from the early 1950's. Apple sauce was poured into each and then heated over an open fire until the apple sauce began to steam. The apple sauce in all but the cast aluminum pot kept its color and smell but the apple sauce in the cast aluminum pot turned pink and emitted a putrid odor.

The owner of the video suggests that maybe at some point someone could have used the pot for something other than cooking and the aluminum could have absorbed some type of harmful chemical. e.g Some people would use old pots that were no longer used to cook with as a catch basin when draining oil or other chemicals from their vehicle. They were used as wash buckets in some cases. They were used for all kinds of things other than cooking. What would cause apple sauce to turn pink and have an awful odor when being heated in a cast aluminum pot and not in other aluminum cookware?

Gary Powell
- Erwin, North Carolina USA

January 2, 2018

thumbsdownI'm 59 years old. Long before the internet or google came along I was taught to stay away from cooking with aluminum, which is why they had enamel pots 'n pans -- as the metals leeched into all our foods.
I could care less what google says nor the internet; there is a reason you cook with stainless steel or enamel cookware. I have never been a fan of aluminum pots 'n pans.

Don Denver
- San Antonio, Texas USA

sidebar2 March 27, 2018

thumbsdown Dear Mr. Mooney, reading many of your counter comments on different issues; it moves me to comment on your ill opinion of the internet, especially YouTube. Even if one was to sift out 90% of all information as garbage (which those proportions are irrational), think about the 10% which may be life saving for millions in regards to all the information our very own governments and private groups are keeping from us. You are a source of some great answers, but please cut the Truthers some slack. Thanks. Yankee Rose

Rose Nyerick
- Baton Rouge, Louisiana

March 2018

thumbs up sign Hi cousin Rose; thanks for your input. I use youtube myself constantly and love it; and has embedded more than 200 YouTube videos (& counting!) on our pages -- so I don't think my opinion of it is nearly as negative as you believe. Truthers have far more to fear from censorship by their ISP and the major sites than they have to fear from me expressing a personal opinion on my own site.

But I continue to believe that blogs, snippets, videos, and public forums -- even, which I've put my heart & soul into for 24 years -- are a poor substitute for books & journals because authors of books spend thousands of hours organizing huge troves of information into careful tutorial fashion so a reader can progress without lost motion and without missing important stuff ... whereas bouncing around on the internet means wasting endless hours reading the same introductory stuff a dozens times on the one hand while landing on pages they can't yet understand on the other hand; it is a ridiculously inefficient way to try to learn a subject. People often come to this site claiming they are weary from hours on the internet doing so, and still they've missed vital points all the time ... so I continue to say that youtube can be fine instruction on a narrow subject like replacing a specific faucet washer or automobile headlamp bulb, but that the internet is a poor tutor for gaining expertise & proficiency in a field. Thanks again.


pic of Ted Mooney
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Striving to live "Aloha"

December 29, 2018

thumbs up sign My grandmother Belle Westaway from Brookline Massachusetts sold Club Aluminum during the depression in New England. She was the top salesperson at that time.
She lived to be 92.

Robert Direng
- South Park Pennsylvania

March 5, 2019

Q. Why do so many use the length of time their mother/father lived while using aluminium pots to argue aluminium must be okay? And using the argument their parents who died of heart disease (when - in their 60's?) used aluminium cookware? They therefore missed out on Alzheimer, Parkinsons or any other form of dementia which often comes on in OLD old age - such as 90 - 100 plus. Many in my family have lived to make 99 or 100, and if I live that long I want to enjoy my last 10 or 20 years as well as not be a burden on others. It's not hard to buy and use stainless steel pots and lessen the risk. Why not?

Victoria STOKES

March 2019

A. Hi Victoria. I don't think many people use the anecdotal argument that "my parents (or my grandparents) weren't harmed". I & others use the very powerful statistical argument that tens of millions of people, probably hundreds of millions, don't seem to have been demonstrably harmed according to studies done by the people we entrust to do them like the Alzheimer's Association, the EPA, and WHO.

I'm not saying that there is no evidence to the contrary or that the risk is zero. I'm saying that when those trusted sources change their minds, so will I; but in the meantime risk is everywhere -- so aluminum cookware is not something that I will worry over.

My posting just before this one talked about how some important things can be missed when we bounce around the internet ... and one of those things that you might possibly be missing is that lots of people feel stainless steel cookware is dangerous too -- threads 41738 & 30701 for starters :-)

Best regards,

pic of Ted Mooney
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Striving to live "Aloha"

March 6, 2019

Your points are good - in this imperfect world nothing is completely safe - but there were quite a few commenting whose main reason to use aluminium was based on the life of a relative.

Victoria STOKES

If you have a question in mind which seems off topic, please Search the Site

ADD a Q, A, or Comment on THIS topic START an UNRELATED topicView CURRENT HOT TOPICS

Disclaimer: It's not possible to diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations may be deliberately harmful.

  If you need a product/service, please check these Directories:

JobshopsCapital Equip. & Install'nChemicals & Consumables Consult'g, Train'g, SoftwareEnvironmental ComplianceTesting Svcs. & Devices

©1995-2019, Inc., Pine Beach, NJ   -   About   -  Privacy Policy
How Google uses data when you visit this site.