How to calculate/measure the thickness of zinc coatings

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April 2022

A. Hi Manish. You used a nonsense term "gsm/sq meter" three times in your short question, so I don't think you made a typo -- but rather that you may be attempting to solve for the answer without really understanding the question.

That approach, mathematically solving for the answer without understanding the question, is reserved to quantum physicists, not we mere mortals :-)

"GSM" is an abbreviation/acronym for "grams per square meter", so "gsm/sq meter" would mean "grams per square meter per square meter" and makes no sense. I think that might be why the simple arithmetic of your question is puzzling you. Use either "grams per square meter" or its acronym "GSM".

You know the area of your coil in square meters: The area of the top surface is 850 mm x 681000 mm; the area of the bottom surface is the same; the area of the left edge is 0.22 mm x 681000 mm; the area of the right edge is the same. But 0.22 is SO much smaller than 850 that the area of the edges can be safely ignored. So figuring just the top and bottom, the area is 2 x 850 mm x 681000 mm, i.e., 2 x 0.850 m x 681 m, or 1158 square meters.

Multiply that number of square meters of area times your grams per square meter to arrive at your grams.

Luck & Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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August , 2008

A. Hi, Vinod. Usually electroplating is expressed in thickness but phosphatizing is expressed in weight because the meaning and usefulness of the term 'thickness' becomes compromised when you are speaking of a conversion coating which includes some dissolution of the original substrate, transition areas, various different compounds, and a spikey surface.

But if this is zinc electroplating and the density of zinc metal is about 7.14 g/cm³, then you have 610/7.14 = 85.4 cm³ or .0000854 m³ of zinc spread across 1 m².

So the thickness is .0000854 meters or 85.4 microns or 3.3 thousandths of an inch. That would be too thick for zinc electroplating and sounds more like galvanizing. Typically, and per spec, zinc electroplating would be 5, 8, 13, or 25 microns thick based on whether the service condition was mild, moderate, severe, or very severe.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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August 15, 2008

A. 610 g/m² is the often used equivalent of 85 microns used for hot dip galvanizing.

Can't imagine electroplating that thick!

Geoff Crowley
Crithwood Ltd.
Westfield, Scotland, UK

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May 2017

A. Hi John. If you multiply the thickness of the coating (100 microns) by the surface area you are coating, you will have the volume of zinc you are using. You can, if you wish, then multiply this by the density of zinc to convert the zinc usage to weight instead of volume.

Your unknown at this point, though, is how much surface area you are coating. Telling us the weight of steel you are coating doesn't help us because if we don't know the thickness of the steel we cannot convert its weight to its area.

As for how to reduce the thickness from 100 microns to 85 microns, we have many threads which address that issue, including:
letter 55032, "How can we minimize galvanize coating thickness",
letter 57597, "Reducing variance in galvanizing coating thickness"
and letter 45551, "Reducing coating thickness by adding nickel salts". Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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February 2019

A. Hi Siva. I assume you are saying that you are supposed to offer a coating of 500 grams / meter² but don't know whether this is per side or total? Most specs mean total weight of zinc on both sides put together (although it's always dangerous to ask a 3rd party to guess what your customer wanted).

It's okay to estimate for your own purposes the grams / meter² from the thickness, or vice versa, per the examples worked out on this page -- such that, yes, 60 microns average total thickness should be about 430 grams / meter² -- but I think you are expected to verify the coating weight by stripping and weighing, not by taking a thickness reading at a couple of points and assuming that the thickness will be the same everywhere. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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March 10, 2019

A. That's an easy question. Even easier than 'What is the meaning of life?' If your wire is 2.45 mm in diameter and you want to build it up to 2.50 mm, then you need 0.025 mm of plating, since you plate all around the wire. That's 25 micrometers. And the meaning of life? That's 42. At least according to Douglas Adams.

Tom Rochester
Plating Systems & Technologies, Inc.
Jackson, Michigan, USA

Tom is the author of
"Surface Area Formulas & Tables
- A Resource for Surface Finishers"

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June 20, 2019

A. Elcometer is a brand name of an instrument maker. They make many different instruments.
Your question isn't specific enough.
Which meter do you wish to use?
What do you want to measure?

If you wish to measure the length of the coated item, then a tape measure might do.
If (as I suspect, but you didn't say), you wish to measure the galvanizing thickness, then an instrument is available for this purpose, and ISO 1461 [affil link], the International standard for galvanizing allows for such an instrument to be used. There are many manufacturers of such instruments, Elcometer is one of many reputable brands.
The standard dictates how many places you should measure, and how to decide where etc.

Geoff Crowley
Crithwood Ltd.

Bathgate, Scotland, UK

A. Sorry Rahul, that one is unanswerable.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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October 2019

A. Hi Nilesh. Several people have said 610GSM is 85 microns, and 430GSM is 60 microns, so 350GSM would be 350/610 x 85 = 48 microns; or 350/430 x 60 = 48 microns average thickness. But again, the math does not guarantee even thickness.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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December 2019

A. Hi Mun. ZF100 means the coating weight is 100 grams per square meter (and that usually includes both sides). I think you need to consult a manufacturer's data sheet for the hardness.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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February 2020

A. Hi Bappu.
Weight = Density X Volume, and
Volume = Surface Area X Thickness

You're making me guess :-)
Do you know the exact surface area you are trying to cover?
Did you know the math, but are actually asking for the density of sprayed zinc to plug into the formula?

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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February 2020

A. Hi Katakam. As you can see from the above question from Rukesh, it can be a bit difficult in practice, but in theory it's very easy ...

Weight = Volume X Density, and
Volume = Surface Area X Thickness, so
Weight = Surface Area X Thickness X Density.

Because there are 10,000 cm2 per m2 of Surface Area, and 1/10,000 of a cm in a micron, the numbers work out nicely, with 1 micron thickness over a square meter being equal to 1 cm3 of metal. So the gsm per micron thickness is, happily, simply the density of the metal per cm3.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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March 2020

A. Hi Mahendra. I punctuated your posting and hope I am interpreting it correctly. It seems quite unlikely that you neither know nor are able to measure the length of a wire, so I'm assuming that this is a student homework question rather than a real-world situation? Therefore I'll offer you the path to solving it rather than the answer.

If you don't know the substrate material, the problem isn't solvable. But if this is a galvanizing situation and we assume that the substrate is steel --

- Once you know the substrate material, you can estimate its density.
- And knowing the weight and density, you can solve for the volume of wire you have.
- And knowing the volume and the diameter, you can solve for the length.
- And knowing the length and diameter, you can solve for the surface area.
- And knowing the added weight of the zinc coating per square meter and the surface area of the wire, you can solve for the gm/m2. Good luck!

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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May 2020

A. Hi Swapnil. If you ask a question you don't really understand, the answer isn't of much value; are you sure you understand the question? (The reason I wonder is because you gave five pieces of info and four of them are extraneous: neither the dimensions of the plate nor its weight matter).
If a coating is 67.5 millionths of a meter thick, the volume of the coating on one side of a square meter of surface is 67.5 millionths of a cubic meter, and zinc weighs about 7140 kg per cubic meter, so the weight of the coating on that square meter is 0.482 kg or 482 grams per side. Good luck!

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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May 2020

A. Hi Dinesh. I'm not a galvanizer and can't answer your questions. Sorry! But as site curator I think you'll improve the chances of readers spending their time by realizing that people would like to learn something from you ... and they want to help an actual individual ... and they seek the satisfaction of helping to solve an actual problem ... and most of them don't relish just looking stuff up in books and quoting it.

So if you don't get quick responses, please humor me and try to add to your question in one or more of those ways. Thanks!

Oh! And one more thing people sometimes like to do: if they feel that someone is "lecturing" someone else, they like to prove them wrong. So maybe my posting will help after all :-)

Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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September 2020

A. Hi Anu. I wish I could find a plumber who would charge me by how many washers he replaces :-)
I doubt that you are actually charged by the volume of zinc consumed because labor, handling, maintenance, and overhead are actually involved.
But the density of zinc is 7.133 g/cm^3 or 7133 kg/m3. So if the coating is 100 microns thick on each side, the volume of zinc deposited on a square meter of sheet would be more or less: 2 sides x (100 x 10^-6 m) thickness x 1 m^2 area = 2 x 10^-4 m^3. And the weight would be roughly (2 x 10^-4 m^3) x 7133 kg/m^3 or 1.427 kg.

I've been pleased to work a lot of examples on this page just to make sure there have been no misunderstandings about the concepts. But there are an infinite amount of numbers, so infinity3 or infinity4 of such calculations. Ask away about any concepts you're not following but, sorry, I am declining additional arithmetic problems :-)

Luck & Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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October 13, 2020

A. As a galvanizer, I can confirm what ted has said. Most galvanizers don't charge on zinc consumed. They might charge extra for something that consumes a lot of zinc, but the variability in zinc consumption from one job to another isn't enough to compensate for the variability in factory space it occupies.
You will typically get charged a lot for something that...
* is lightweight
* Has high surface to weight ratio
* Has a high handling element (lots of small items)
* is hollow (and so gets galvanized inside as well as outside)
* Takes a long time to dip (holes too small)
* Is a trivially small order (where the administration costs more than the galvanizing)

Geoff Crowley
Crithwood Ltd.

Bathgate, Scotland, UK

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October 27, 2020

A. Sounds like fairly simple arithmetical question to me. You have stated all the parameters, and Good will give you those you don't have, so you can calculate this easily yourself.
There's something wrong if you need this spelled out.

Geoff Crowley
Crithwood Ltd.

Bathgate, Scotland, UK

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October 2021

A. Hi Vikash. I'm not really understanding your first question. If you are saying you are losing only 1.6%, it would seem that zinc pickup would have to account for the other 98.4% of consumption ... what am I missing?

Luck & Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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November 4, 2021

A. Numbers to aim for with the thickness of steel you quote...
Dross: 0.3 to 0.9% of the weight of steel galvanized (white weight)
Ash: 0.2 to 0.5% of the weight of steel galvanized (white weight)
Total zinc pickup should be about 4-5%

There are usually easily identifiable reasons for having greater losses than this.

Geoff Crowley
Crithwood Ltd.

Bathgate, Scotland, UK

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January 2022

A. Hi Yassar. If you know the total surface area of something and the thickness of the coating, you simply multiply them together to get the volume of the coating. And then you simply multiply by the density of the coating to get its weight. But the tricky part is figuring out the surface area. For a hollow cylinder, the formula is:

This may be a bit hard to follow, but the Quora author is saying on his first line that the total surface area equals the area of the top surface and bottom surfaces (the ends of the tube), each equal to π*(R^2-r^2), plus the area of the outside cylinder, plus the area of the inside cylinder. His third line is his final simplified formula. His second line looks more like a complication than a simplification, but he knows where his third line was headed and this was the 'simplification' road to get there :-)

You might be interested in Tom Rochester's book, "Surface Area Formulas and Tables", which explains a lot about estimating surface areas. For example, when the wall of the tubing is thin enough, you can ignore the tiny area of the tube ends, and the difference between the inside and outside diameter and estimate the surface area as approximately 2 * π * OD * length. In your case the simplified formula is 99.38% of the actual.

Luck & Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey

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January 24, 2022

A. Not sure what you are asking, as you have stated the thickness of the galvanizing to be 40µ

If you want to calculate the weight of zinc on a single pipe, then calculate the volume of zinc and multiply by its density (SG. Zinc is about 7.1 as a solid, 6.9 as a liquid)

Geoff Crowley
Crithwood Ltd.

Bathgate, Scotland, UK