Q. Hello ... I have been putting about 350 grams of copper sulphate once a month into our 100,000 litre pool. I use 2 cups of chlorine powder for the other 3 weeks of the month. We have always had crystal clear water. I'm concerned about the possible negative long term health effects from the copper sulphate as it can be absorbed through the skin.
Dave Bradshaw - Durban, South Africa ^
December 2, 2021
Q. Hi Okoth, I have been using only Copper Sulphate (Trussi) and Granulated Chlorine and a floating 3"Chlorine Tab since March.
Now that we are into the rainy season the water is not as crystal clear as before.
Should the pH still be controlled as haven't used HCl since using the Copper/Chlorine method?
Many thanks for any input you may have.
TAC SMITH Retired - Bali, Indonesia ^
February 8, 2022
Q. How much copper sulphate do I need in order to eliminate liver flukes in a communal water dam of 20000 litres of water?
Q. I'm hoping someone can help me with this question, and I know absolutely nothing about copper sulfate [affil. link to info/product on Amazon].
My question is this: we own an in-ground swimming pool, and last year had terrible problems with algae because of heavy rains all season. We spend hundreds of dollars (as did many other people) in trying to control the problem. Of course my husband thinks that we didn't need to spend all that money through the swimming pool experts and that much of their chemicals are just a money making scam. My husband had also been told by a friend, that copper sulphate was the answer to this kind of problem. After using a very small amount of it in his pool, it apparently cleared up this friends nasty swimming pool algae in no time. It was also pocket-book friendly. This friend claimed that he received this information as a tip from a someone who works for a swimming pool company, and that this remedy is not sold as a water cleaner/clarifier by swimming pool companies.
My query lies in wondering why this is not sold by swimming pool companies as a water clarifier/cleaner. Is there a reason for this? What would be the long term effects/damage or heath concerns involved in trying something like this? Is copper sulphate an agent that is already used in manufactured swimming pool chemicals? My husband wants to try it this year, but I'm a little nervous about it. I could easily go and ask the swimming pool people about it, but I wanted an unbiased and educated opinion on this subject.
I'd appreciate any input on this.
Tracie K. Wren - Cobden, Ontario, Canada ^
A. I occasionally use copper sulfate (we use "f" instead of "ph" in the states, eh?) in my pool. Municipalities have been using it for years to control algae growth in surface drinking water supplies. Copper sulfate is not a substitute for chlorine or other purifying media. It is, essentially, a metallic poison that in small concentrations inhibits algae growth. I use it in 1-2 mg/liter (as copper sulfate) concentrations. You should have access to a source to analyze trace copper should you need to add more. Like I said, copper sulfate is poisonous, so use it at your own risk.
George Brackett III - Utica, New York ^
Q. Copper Sulfate has been used for years as an effective means of algae control in surface water but is it safe to use in swimming pools and if so how much would you use in a 30,000 gal pool and how often...
A. One part per million of copper in drinking water is quite safe, and 0.5 parts per million is enough to control green algae in swimming pools. Most copper sulphate contains around 20-25% copper, so a 50,000 liter pool would require 100 - 120 grams copper sulphate if the pool is green I would give a once off double dose. Test kits are available to test the concentration off copper in the water. A word of caution, copper used in conjunction with too much chlorine will eventually cause black stains on marble plaster, although these can easily be removed by "acid washing" the pool. One cup of calcium hypochlorite per week will be enough to keep the water sanitised. As always maintain a pH of 7.2 - 7.6
Q. I have exactly the same problem with the chlorine and the sulphate turning the grouting black, can you please tell me what "One cup of calcium hypochlorite per week will be enough to keep the water sanitised." does this get rid of the black or do I have to empty the pool and use acid, what is another name for calcium hypochlorite and where would I be able to buy it.
Robin Dillon - Minorca, Spain ^
A. Another name for calcium hypochlorite is probably 'chlorine tablets'. So, no, these don't remove the black stain, excessive use of them causes the stain.
A. Calcium Hypochlorite is also known as unstabilised chlorine , i.e., it is not combined with cyanuric acid. It comes in granular or tablet form. Stabilised chlorine, e.g.(Trichlorisocyanuricacid)is usually in tablet form in those floating chlorinators . Both are chlorine and will stain marble plaster black when used with copper.
Copper sulphate, whilst being an excellent algaecide will not sanitise (disinfect) your pool water; that's where the chlorine comes in, or you could use
hydrogen peroxide [affil. link to info/product on Amazon] it will sanitise the water and won't stain the pool,it has the added benefit of being harmless to the ozone layer (it breaks down into hydrogen and oxygen). Draining the pool and washing down with a weak hydrochloric acid solution will remove the stains. Ask the guys at the pool shop how to do it, so you don't damage your plaster.
Garry Sunderland - South Africa ^
Q. I have had a pool for 4 years and use an ioniser as the primary water treatment with occasional chlorine treatments. I noticed that the grouting in the tiles has turned bright green and also the children's scalps and hair have turned green! Obviously I am worried about this, On testing the water I found high levels of copper how can I remove it from the water?
Mrs L Aquilina pool owner - Gharb, Gozo, Malta ^
A. A chelating agent will remove the copper from the water (ask at the pool shop) As for the hair, a little vinegar in the final rinse after washing should remove the green tint.
Garry Sunderland - South Africa ^
Q. I've been thinking about using copper sulfate in my vinyl lined pool. I've been searching the web a long time to find out the difference between copper sulfate and the ionized copper that comes from the ionizers that's being sold. If I'm correct their both positive ions, one is water soluble, and the other just(for lack of the proper word) invisibly hangs in the water. Does anyone know the difference? This is the first site I've come across where someone has actually said they use copper sulfate in their pool. Thank you.
Ruby Edwards - Morganton, North Carolina, USA ^
May 7, 2012
Q. This is a follow-up question. Use of copper sulfate in swimming pool to control algae, is this a one-time treatment or weekly or monthly treatment? Or just add some when sign of algae appears?
john hu - baton rouge, Louisiana ^
June 25, 2013
A. I have been using copper sulfate in my above-ground (11,000) gals. At a rate of 4 TEASPOONS of the Granular dissolved in 4 gals of water then poured evenly around entire perimeter of the pool. I do this once a month. Additionally, I add one lb. of granular Shock about once every 6 to 10 days, depending on traffic and rain. I have been doing this for 4 years and have the bluest cleanest pool around. The amounts I use were prescribed to me by an engineer who works for a chemical company that sells to municipalities all over the SE U.S.
Naturally you are not going to get any information about this from your pool supply companies. I pay $25.00 for 5 lbs. of Copper Sulfate, which is about a 6 to 8 year supply.
Randall Gatlin - Gulfport, Mississippi USA ^
February 6, 2015
Q. OMW, 9 years later, thank you -- so should I add the copper sulphate solution at night or in the day?
sheryl paul - johannesburg, south africa ^
Hi Sheryl. You're less likely to stumble on something and hit your head and drown in the daytime; and more likely to encounter a skunk or porcupine or other nocturnal animal at night :-)
Actually, to my knowledge, there is no particular difference ... but we'll see if someone calls me out as wrong.
!! During the past twenty years or so I have used an electronic copper ion generator .... two electrodes into my filter unit ... which operates with the filter timing sequence. Before that I used Copper Sulphate. Very inexpensive and effective in my 80,000 liter pool. Be very careful when you put in any pool chemicals. READ the labels and understand what they mean. We have pool companies that will sell you acid at 4x the price by calling it 'Pool Sparkle'. Everything is poisonous ... in excess (there are even toxic relationships). Do your homework. Ozone or UV are sanitizing options to replace chlorine but algae control is not part of that protocol ... except that chlorine will kill or bleach algae. I have found that a neutral pH is the first parameter to control.
Hans Ruysenaar Retired - Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa ^
A. I have been using copper sulfate for many years now at the .5 PPM ratio, and of course chlorine, as a sanitizing agent. There is a trick to using this which I have yet to see posted and that is to also add 1 lb. of powdered Borax /10,000 gallons of pool water. The borax removes oxygen from the water and ties it up as H2O2 ( hydrogen peroxide ) in the pool water, this is degraded daily by sunlight, it is harmless to you at this dilution, it will prevent algae ever becoming established when combined with chlorine and copper sulfate, it will also kill out established black algae in the pool.
Thomas Moore - Adjuntas Puerto Rico USA ^
August 3, 2021
A. Hello guys, let me share my experiences ... I have a 18000 gallon in-ground liner pool. It is equipped with a sand filter and a post filtration cartridge filter plus a homemade copper ionizer. I actually add copper sulfate to maintain .300 ppm limit. Add one pound and check the copper concentration with a copper concentration kit. Have not had any problems ever !
When I see spots of brown algae, I drop shock granules where the algae spot is, using a PVC tube, and it is gone in minutes !
IMACK LAYDERA-COLLINS User - Benton [Louisiana] ^
April 19, 2015
Q. I have heard that Borax is good to use for water clarity but I hesitate, not knowing about the frequency or how to test its level of intensity. Is there any information about those factors that may be helpful?
Q. My daughter is allergic to copper sulfate. Will it harm her in the pool?
eileen dewar - lachute que. canada ^
? Hi Eileen. Sorry but I don't even quite know what that means. I would think that everyone is "allergic" to copper sulphate -- it's a poison. But many ponds and medium sized lakes are dosed with copper sulphate. What (if anything) does her doctor or dermatologist say about her condition and this situation?
Q. to Randall G
- Gulfport, Mississippi or anyone willing to answer.
Randall, you say you purchase Copper Sulfate for your pool, what company would you recommend? Also, in the pool industry there is a company named "[supplier name deleted by editor]" that makes a fortune off of this stuff, their primary ingredient is Copper Sulphate Pentahydrate (Chelated) is this the same thing you use? Please advise, Thanks.
Bobby Grant Pool Business - Anna, Texas USA ^
Hi Bobby. Randall's posting was from over 2 years ago, so we don't know if he'll reply -- we'll see. But we can't discuss what ingredients particular suppliers use in their trade-secret products in this public forum -- that comes too close to trying to crowd-source industrial espionage :-)
Copper Sulfate in swimming pool is rusting the heater
July 11, 2015
Q. I used copper sulphate as opposed to chlorine as an inexpensive and effective way to treat my swimming pool. I used it for 10-15 years. Three years ago, I purchased a water heater for the first time. Within 3 months the heat exchanger was all rusted out. I stopped immediately using copper sulphate and went for a whole summer using just chlorine. I started the pool up this spring and observed a leak. I checked the heater and the heat exchanger was starting to rust. My question: how long is will it take for the copper sulphate to be eliminated from my pool and is there some thing that I can use to quickly nullify the rusting effects
James Campbell - Niagara Falls, ON, Canada ^
July 13, 2015
A. Many metals corrode. Only iron alloys, i.e., steel, rust.
Your pool heater "rusted out"? That makes no sense. Most pools use chlorine which, by itself will cause rapid rusting of plain steel. Copper may accelerate rusting of steel.
The bottom line is, in my opinion, steel is completely inappropriate for heat exchangers which have contact with swimming pool water.
If you were sold a steel heat exchanger for swimming pool use, you have a valid complaint with the manufacturer.
If it is a gas fired unit, the heat exchanger parts which contact pool water should be copper or a chloride resistant stainless steel alloy like 316. I used a copper/solar heater for many years with zero leaks.
If a low pressure solar heater, then plastics like PVC or polypropylene can be also used.
Steel? No. No way.
But, if you still want to get the copper out, dump and replace the water.
Jeffrey Holmes, CEF Spartanburg, South Carolina ^
July 17, 2015
Q. Great information on thread - so thanks! My 100,000 Litre cement pool is extremely green, including along the sides. I added about 2-kg of 'shock' 48-hrs ago and it is still very green... and cloudy. Based on a post above it appears I will require 400 grams of copper sulphate based on 100 grams per 50,000L plus a 'one-time-double-dose'.
I would like to know the most effective way to add this to my 20x40 pool!
e.g., should I mix with water first, (how much water) and pour around perimeter, or is it okay to pour into skimmer filter. And also, how long should the filter run to move solution around enough to work effectively?
I also read on another site that copper sulphate can leave purple stains.... is this a probable risk with using 400 grams in 100,000 L pool?
Thank you!! LA
Lori-Ann Gill - London, ON Canada ^
July 24, 2015
Q. We are first time above ground pool owners. I've been doing a lot of reading about using copper to control algae and sanitize the water. My question is do I use it in conjunction with chlorine? And what's the best way to figure out how much I should be using? I have a smaller maybe 5000 gal pool at most. Thank You.
Jennifer Kasper - Johnsburg, Illinois, USA ^
August 22, 2015
RFQ: Does anyone out there know of a company that can identify algae? We have tried many products in our huge (85,000 gallon) concrete swimming pond which is filtered through 2 gravel/plant filled bogs. We'd like to know what type of algae we are trying to treat.
Sarah Lazard - Penn Valley California ^
August 24, 2015
A. Algae needs 5 things to live: water, sunlight, carbon dioxide, nitrates, and phosphates. Take away any one, and it will die. Phosphate remover, though expensive, is very effective. BTW, phosphates come primarily from pee in the pool water. Don't pee in the pool, and algae control becomes much easier.
I am a pool pro. I used to use copper sulphate pentahydrate, but discontinued it. I was getting green hair complaints from my customers. You also risk having an unsightly purple precipitate from the copper with pH changes.
Carl Stephens Aqua Pools - Central Florida, USA ^
August 25, 2015
Q. Thinking of trying copper sulfate in my 24' round above ground pool. I know this is going to display my total ignorance of pool maintenance, but do you pour the solution around the perimeter of the pool with the pump on filter, recirculate, or turned off? Please don't laugh, my husband took care of all this, and I'm a rank beginner!!
Kathy Rector - Leesville, Louisiana ^
A. Hi Kathy. I think what's best is good mixing. Pouring it around the edge, maybe stirring a bit with a paddle, while the filter is on is probably fine. But it would be better to pour it into a watering can and dilute it first. Usually, the product will suggest a whole regimen though (i.e., how it best fits into the sequence of chlorinating, shocking, pH adjustment, etc.)
Q. How long should we wait to swim after adding the copper sulfate? I have a 24 ft above ground pool.
Christie Miller - Houma, Louisiana ^
August 25, 2015
Q. Can I use copper sulfate in a vinyl lined in ground pool? If so, how much do I use for 22,000 gallons?
Melanie Quim - Anderson, Indiana USA ^
August 28, 2015
Q. I saw a post of Facebook saying Copper Sulfate was the thing to use. It is green. I got the stuff today and am going to try it in my 24' above ground pool. Planning on using 4 tsp mixed with 3 gallons of water. And suggestions or precautions I need to know about before I do?.
A D BOUTWELL - Soso, Mississippi USA ^
A. Hi A D. I just post the Q&A's, I don't even have a pool. But 4 tsp in a 24' pool shouldn't hurt anything. People seem to think about 1 part per million is appropriate (although some people don't believe in using it at all, of course). Just making sure others don't misread your comment as meaning 4 tsp for every 3 gallons -- that would be way way too much. Copper sulphate is blue, so I'm not sure what's going on with your supply.
Q. Ted ... Thanks for your response, but I think you misunderstood me. What I meant was to mix the copper sulfate with three gallons of water and distribute that three gallons of solution around the perimeter of the pool which contains 12,000 gallons of water. I did that yesterday. I can't tell much, if any, difference yet but didn't know whether to continue to use the 3" chlorine tablets (in my skimmer), which was suggested by my pool man.
My chlorine levels have been very low even though I have used two floaters with 3" tabs in them and shocked it with two pounds of extra shock once a week; filtration system runs 24/7 all season; change filter every day ... STILL have problem with algae and cloudy water. HELP PLEASE.
A D BOUTWELL - Soso, Mississippi ^
August 31, 2015
A. The use of copper sulphate to kill algae in pools can work very well if you just keep the following points in mind.
1. A safe level of copper sulfate would be 2 parts per million
2. To prevent the copper sulfate from precipitating out of solution, chelate it with citric acid before putting it into the pool.
3. Also to prevent it from making blue stains on the pool wall, correct your total alkalinity of your pool and also see that your pH of your water stays within the correct range.
Copper sulphate can be bought as a powder which is very fine and it will have a greenish color, or you can get it as a blue sugar like substance, of which the latter works best. I have been using this system for years now without any problems. You also can reduce your chlorine levels to between 2 - 4 ppm where 4 ppm would be better suited for hot climates
Paul van der Walt - Benoni Gauteng South Africa ^
November 19, 2015
Q. A half kilogram of copper sulphate was added to a 16,000 liter pool. What do I need to do to correct this.
Chuck Blackwell - Curacavi, Chile ^
A. Hi Chuck. Some of us Americans love the metric system where the math is so easy. A liter of water weighs a kg, so 0.5/16000 = 0.00003125 or 31.25 ppm. Copper sulfate is 25% copper, so your copper concentration is almost 8 ppm, about 4X what is considered safe. Unfortunately I don't see a good alternative to dumping 3/4 or all of the pool.
Q. Hi. Can I use Copper sulphate in my saltwater chlorinator? My pool is about 80,000 lt.
clifford sammons private - klerksdorp South Africa ^
November 27, 2015
A. Metal finishers remove the copper from their waste streams by adding sodium hydroxide to raise the pH to above 8 and precipitating out the copper hydroxide followed by filtration. You can do the same. Usually swimming pools and hot tubs have some EDTA in them, but usually not much, so you won't be able to get it all out. The higher the pH the more will precipitate out.
A. I had a hard time with algae in the pool and started using a product called PoolRx. It comes in a small blue plastic container, about cup size and oval shaped, that one can drop into the skimmer basket. The chemical used is Copper Sulphate Pentahydrate (chelated).
PoolRx minerals dissolve out of the unit in the first 24 hours and form a stable residual throughout the entire body of water killing algae and bacteria. This frees up low levels of chlorine or salt chlorine to be more active and available. As the minerals pass back over the PoolRx unit during circulation, they are reenergized and last up to 6 months.
My pool stays algae free so long as I brush it now and then.
Al Jenkins Retired Minister - Lakeland, Florida, USA ^
May 25, 2017
Q. When I was a child growing up on a farm in Africa the only place to swim without contracting a tropical disease (bilharzia) or getting taken by a croc was the farm reservoir. My father used to cast handfuls of copper sulphate into the green slimy water (way too much according to previous comments in this thread) and I'd watch the colour of the water transform itself from dark, murky, slimy green to the beautiful blue that anyone who's witnessed the process is familiar with. What I can't remember and I'm hoping someone can clear up for me (pun incidental) is whether the water became clear or remained murky (albeit blue). That detail has faded from my memory.
Thanking you in anticipation
David Brooke-Mee - Grays, UK ^
October 25, 2017
Q. I have a small round plastic children's pool. We filled the pool with water and after adding chlorine the pool turned brown with iron.
What is the best way to remove iron from the pool water and what subsequent treatments should be applied.
Tim Dawson Farmer - Mazabuka Zambia ^
A. Hi Tim. The best way to remove the iron is with a filter. If you can get a small sump pump and recirculate the water through a bucket filled with rags or pillow stuffing it will capture all of the brown color. See topic 14995 please. Good luck.
A. Any filtering of a fresh iron water (pumped out from ground) will clog the filter within a short time period. To reduce or fully remove the iron (and/or other metals) a sedimentation of the water is needed prior to the use - in a tank 1 - 5 cbm. The sedimentation can be sped up by addition of strong dosage of chlorine (a handful) and a later addition of strong flocculator (e.g. alum 1/2 - 1 kg). Within 3 - 4 days the iron will settle to the bottom, clear water can be taken a few cm above the bottom.
Then only, a slow flow through a suitable filter (gravitation sand filter) will improve the water quality.
My ground water turns to dark brown within half an hour. With this procedure (tank 4 cbm in a height for gravitation flow on sand filter cascade) I get clear water for filling 60 cbm pool and house use.
Jan Mrskos - Lampang, Thailand ^
November 6, 2017
A. Here in rural NSW Australia we can buy Stock Trough Blocks.bFarmers put them in water troughs for livestock to drink.They kill and inhibit algae. The are the size of very large soap bars. I put one permanently in the skimmer box basket. It degrades slowly over time
Peter Heilman - Godfreys Creek NSW Australia ^
January 9, 2018
Q. I followed Garry Sunderland post based on the 50000 liter, in my case 63000 liter e.g. 350 grams of copper sulphate. 16 hours later still green. Can somebody advise? I had my pool tested 4 days before and the chemical balance of the pool was fine. Thanks
Manfred van der Brugghen Construction professional - Johannesburg, South Africa ^
January 14, 2018
A. Manfred, I calculate that you would be at about 5.6 PPM copper sulphate and presuming that you are using the decahydrate version which is about 25% copper , would be a little over 1 PPM copper.
When I first cleared my pool after hurricane Irma some months ago, it took about three days at 0.4 PPM copper. So time may be on your side.
But my problem now as stated below, is a bloom of a copper resistant algae that is persisting. My online research suggests that it may be the resistant Pithophora. I need to get this solved.
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