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Pretreatment required before Alodine (Chem-Film on Aluminum)

February 24, 2017

Q. I am designing some aluminum parts for a pulsed power device. The parts will conduct a very large but short duration current pulse. I am considering having the plates Alodine treated after machining. First, I want to make sure I specify the most conductive version of Alodine. I believe that would be Type 1 Class 3.

My main question is how best to pre-treat the metal parts before the chromate conversion. My ideas are:
1. Some type of chemical etch
2. Glass bead blasting

If a chemical etch would be best, how do I specify that process? This is for Aluminum.

Mark Rhodes
- Livermore, California USA
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When processing aluminum alloy components, the chromating or anodizing process only reacts with the aluminum, so it is generally necessary to "de-smut" or strip away any copper, silicon, or other alloying materials from the surface.

The need for this de-smutting step is more acute if any etching is being done because the caustic etch will dissolve aluminum while leaving behind those contaminating materials.

February 2017

A. Hi Mark. Although an acidic bifluoride etch may be possible, alkaline etching is much more common. If you're only making a few pieces you can probably do the process in a sink without a bunch of tanks, but for a production situation you need a tank for each step in the process, and there's more to it than etch => conversion coat. A fairly typical processing sequence would be:

Non-etch soak clean => rinse => alkaline etching (strong caustic soda) => rinse => rinse => de-smut* => rinse => rinse => chromate conversion coat => rinse => rinse.

* The de-smut step is probably the most variable one as it will depend on what alloy you are processing (whether you need to remove copper, silicon, or whatever) and what environmental pressures your shop is feeling (no chromates, no nitric acid, or whatever). The vendor of the chromate conversion coating process can probably advise on the cleaner, etch, and de-smut.


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February 24, 2017

Q. Thanks for the reply. We won't be doing anything in the sink. We will be choosing a commercial outfit to do the cleaning and chromating as a complete process. I have since talked to some vendors. It has been suggested that we skip the caustic etch and only do the "deox" step otherwise the finish can look blotchy.

I am still looking for input on best electrical conductivity. It has been suggested that Type 1 Class 3 Clear has better conductivity than Type 1 Class 3 Yellow as there is less Chromate with the clear version. This is consistent with another post here that suggested "less time in the tank" gives better electrical performance. I have searched but have not found any actual data comparing Clear to Yellow assuming Type 1 Class 3.

Mark Rhodes [returning]
- Livermore, CA USA

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