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Prevent Tarnish on Gold Plated Silver & Brass

A discussion started in 1999 & continuing through 2017


Q. I'm working on restoring the gold-filled or gold-plated trim on vintage fountain pens, and I have a couple of questions about gold plating.

1. Is it important to pre-plate brass with nickel to prevent migration? I'm pretty sure from what I read here that copper would absolutely migrate into gold, but will brass have the same problem? Is it possible to gold plate directly on brass without risk of discoloration due to this migration effect? Is there some thickness of gold plating that would virtually eliminate any migration of the brass to the surface of the gold?

2. Is there a chart available that lists the voltage ranges and anode materials that should be used with each of the common plating metals? I'm trying to determine what pen plating setup to create, and I'd like to know what voltages and anodes I'd need for the above-mentioned nickel barrier plating and for the gold finish plating.


Daniel Kirchheimer
- Monmouth Junction, New Jersey


A. Daniel, if I am understanding correctly you wish to plate over a brass substrate. If you are not currently permitted this is a problem. First a copper cyanide strike followed by copper plating (acid copper). Then the copper must be activated followed with bright nickel. Then the gold. No matter how thick the nickel or gold plate is, the brass (zinc/copper) will migrate without the nickel. The copper allows the nickel to adhere.

You may want to pursue a brush plating kit.

Bill Hemp
tech svc. w/ chemical supplier - Grand Rapids, Michigan

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How thick must gold plating be?

July 1, 2010

Q. I work for a jewelry company that buys from overseas factories. We have gold-plated silver and gold-plated brass products that are tarnishing, apparently due to insufficient plating and the presence of sulfur in the packaging. I have a few questions: First, is there a minimum thickness that would ensure plating didn't tarnish and lasts a long time (i.e., years)? Would this be different for gold-plated brass vs. gold-plated silver? How about rings versus pendants? Would e-coating be a good solution? I worry the coating might peel off and look odd after some time. Thanks!

Mike O'Donnell
Jewelry Manager - Norwalk, Connecticut, USA

Gold Plating Technology

A. Hi Mike. Yes, insufficient thickness, and sulfur in the packaging, are both problems. Two obvious conditions that can lead to tarnish are porosity due to the gold wearing away or having been too thin from the get-go, and diffusion (molecular level intermixing over time) of the gold with the silver or brass such that the surface is no longer pure gold. While the obvious answer to both problems can be very thick gold plating (gold plated pocket watches have easily lasted a century), gold is very expensive, so other answers to the wear problem and diffusion problem have been offered.

Some of the answers to the wear problem have included:
- The application of titanium nitride in addition to or in lieu of gold plating because it is hard, relatively cheap, and looks very much like gold.
- E-coating or other clear coating that can let the gold show through, while increasing the time before it wears away. Properly done, it will not peel off.
The answer to the diffusion problem can be a barrier layer of nickel or other metal which is more resistant to molecular diffusion.

How thick the gold should be is complex because wear on rings might be a hundred times as severe as wear on pendants, and because it depends on whether gold thickness or another material are your primary barriers against both wear and diffusion, and what standards you want to hold yourself to in providing real vs. fake.

Those old pocket watches might have had 200 microns of gold plating, super-high quality heirloom plating on $10,000 luxury watches today is about 20 microns, very high quality costume jewelry is often about 2-1/2 microns, most "nice" quality costume jewelry is probably 1 micron, but thickness can go down as low as 1/10 of a micron on really cheap stuff or where TiN or clear coating are providing the wear resistance. Good luck.


Ted Mooney, Teds signature
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey

July 8, 2010

A. Silver, copper, and zinc will walk right through gold with time and/or temperature. You must have a diffusion barrier of nickel or palladium between the silver, and/or copper, and/or brass.

robert probert
Robert H Probert
Robert H Probert Technical Services
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Garner, North Carolina

Editor's note: Mr. Probert is the author of Aluminum How-To / Aluminio El Como

July 9, 2010

A. If gold is plated directly on silver, copper, brass, etc., these metals will migrate up through the gold and produce tarnish on the surface. The thicker the gold, the more time it will take but, in my experience, it will eventually happen. For this reason, an adequate thickness of nickel is commonly plated underneath the gold to act as a barrier to this migration. The gold, itself, should not tarnish unless it's of a very low karat.

I would first suspect the nickel as being too thin or not being there at all.

Chris Owen
- Nevada, Missouri, USA

July 13, 2010

A. By federal code gold electroplated jewelry needs at least 7 micro-inches thickness of gold. Heavy gold plate and Vermeil must be at least 100 microinches thick. Very often jewelry made in the third world does not meet these standards. To prevent tarnish a barrier layer of nickel or palladium should be plated over brass and silver before gold plating.

Neil Bell
Red Sky Plating

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Albuquerque, New Mexico
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July 22, 2010

A. I used to work for a fine jewelry Co. in Newark,NJ.
We developed and marketed 18kt gold electroplate brass jewelry with lifetime warranty. At that time there was no standard (astm, mil-spec, etc.) that met our requirements. We developed our own.

Good Luck,

Hamilton M Solidum
- Mays Landing, New Jersey, USA

Gold plating musical instrument mouthpieces

April 7, 2012 -- this entry appended to this thread by editor in lieu of spawning a duplicative thread

Q. My company in Winter Park, Florida, is often asked to gold plate mouthpieces for musical instruments. It has been my habit to silver plate the brass mouthpiece before depositing my gold. My question is this: is it acceptable by industry standards to do this? Will silver migrate into the gold layer? If it does, is that bad? I notice that manufacturers of church accessories often plate gold directly over sterling silver chalices and ciboriums, etc.. I've been doing this for thirty years and haven't had any complaints from my customers, but after a conversation with another metal finisher here in Orlando, I've been having second thoughts. Can you give me any guidance in this matter?
Thank you for your time,

David Barron
owner - Winter Park, Florida, USA

3M Silver Protector Strips

April 9, 2012

A. Hi David.

If a process has been working fine for you for 30 years, pragmatism suggests that you not change it :-)

Mouthpieces never get above room temperature or body temperature, so diffusion is slow. They are not soldered, so no concerns of intermetallics messing things up. They are not electronic components where ultra-low contact resistance must be guaranteed. They are not fine jewelry where the slightest off-color could be a killer issue. Adding a nickel layer would be adding many potential complications, including possibly exposing people to a nickel surface (some people are genuinely allergic to nickel and others may be paranoid about it).

In short, it's working fine for your application so don't change it ... but don't go lecturing the Orlando shop that they don't need a nickel barrier -- their application is probably different, and they they probably do need it :-)


Ted Mooney,
Teds signature
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey

April 9, 2012

A. I was just looking at a piece of 60+ year old Tiffany Vermeil.

It still looks like new.

Will silver migrate through gold plating if there is no nickel barrier? Yes. But if the gold plating is done well and thick enough, it won't happen in a lifetime.

I'm guessing, and it's only a guess, that at ambient temperature, the migration of silver through gold is no more than a few microns per year, so if you're plating, say 50+ microns of gold, your original customer will never have a complaint.

jeffrey holmes
Jeffrey Holmes, CEF
      South Carolina

Gold plated brass jewelry is tarnishing in a week

June 13, 2013

Q. We recently started manufacturing brass jewelry. And a lot of our pieces need to be gold & rhodium plated. We are seeing a lot of gold plating starting to tarnish within one week of plating. The rhodium plating remains fine. What could be the reason? We have the following plating process:

- Polished brass jewelry is cleaned.
- Brass jewelry is plated with Alkaline copper
- Pieces are then plated with Acid copper. This plating is thick micron plating.
- Pieces are then plated in silver strike solution
- Pieces are plated with silver micron (cyanide based)
- Pieces are then plated with palladium (flash)
- Then finally gold plated (flash)
- Lastly rhodium plated.

Thanks and I look forward to feedback.

Pushpak Desai
- Mumbai, INDIA

June 19, 2013

A. Hi Pushpak,

Possible causes are:

1. Gold bath contamination (metallic and/or organic).
2. Poor water rinsing after gold plating.
3. Gold deposit porosity.
4. Storage environment.
5. Metal migration from substrate.


David Shiu
David Shiu
- Singapore

January 2014

A. Hi Pushpak. The only thing I'd add to David's answer is that, while your process is meticulous, with 6 different layers of plating ... If I'm understanding you correctly and parsing your phrasing the way you intended, a micron of copper and a micron of silver is hardly thick plating. I'm not sure that either is even non-porous.


Ted Mooney,
Teds signature
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey

3 Micron Gold Plating on Brass Jewellery

January 4, 2014

Q. We are an export house based in India and we are working on base metal of Brass.
We face a problem at the time of plating and polishing. We are making very heavy pieces of Brass Jewellery. When we try to plate 3 micron gold on the same there are lot of scratches visible; these scratches are from the high glaze finish polish that we have done.
After polishing we have done silver plating up to 2 microns and re-polished the same. We do the silver plating again up to 2 microns and then deposit 3 microns of gold on the same.
However, the final result is not very good as the scratches are still visible and also the gold tarnishes after a couple of days.
We have been outsourcing the polishing and our plater advised to do silver plating first as silver is soft and would form a layer on the surface thus hiding all the scratches, etc. -- but this has not helped yet as the scratches are still visible.
What could be the reason for the Gold Tarnishing, and also how can we overcome the Scratches formed by the emery paper at the time of polishing?

Rahul Gupta
- India, Delhi, New Delhi

January 7, 2014

A. Hello Rahul,
Silver plate is not considered a diffusion barrier. I anticipate the fact that nickel can't be used because you are plating jewelry? Without a diffusion barrier you will continue to see tarnishing. Another advantage of a good barrier plate is that it provides good leveling characteristics, which covers imperfections like fine scratches. If nickel cannot be used, have you considered White Bronze? Palladium is also a good barrier plate, but is expensive and would play havoc on your bottom line. I am a little surprised that you are seeing tarnishing in a few days with 120+ microinches of gold thickness. With that thickness it usually takes longer for tarnishing to appear. In summation, consider a good barrier plate between the brass and the gold that has good leveling characteristics. Good Luck.

Mark Baker
Process Engineer - Malone, New York, USA

January 8, 2014

A. Are you doing rack plating or barrel plating? if you are barrel plating then you need to add some filler such as copper or glass beads that will keep the parts from scratching each other.

Mark is correct in that you need a barrier layer to keep the gold from diffusing into the substrate. if you can't use nickel then try iron or cobalt.

Pat Mentone
Pat Mentone
St Paul, Minnesota

January 12, 2014

Q. Hi,
We have been advised by another player to follow the other process as below:
Copper cyanide
After copper cyanide, rebuffing of the jewellery
Then acid copper; they say this form will form a hard layer
After copper acid do cobalt or nickel plating
And after this 3 micron gold plating

Now if this process is good enough or is there anything else that we should keep in mind like the duration between the 2 processes and if after Nickel or Cobalt do we need to give some kind of sulphuric acid bath or something so there is better bonding?

Rahul Gupta
jewellery - New Delhi, India

January 14, 2014

A. Hello Rahul,
Before Acid Cu plate you will want to employ these steps.
1) Soak clean
2) Electroclean
3) Double cascade rinse
4) 5-10% Sulfuric acid dip
5) Acid Cu plate
6) Double cascade rinse
7) 10% Sulfuric acid dip
8) Rinse
9) Ni or Co plate
10) Double cascade DI Rinse
11) Acid activate
12) DI rinse
13) Au plate
The reason for a soak clean and an electroclean is that the soak clean will loosen the soil on the part and the electrocleaner will blow it right off. You may already be doing this after the buffing process. Moving farther down the line, you will want to get into the Au bath within 90 seconds after the acid activate. Ni has a tendency to go passive if there is a delay going into the Au. Good Luck.

Mark Baker
Process Engineer - Malone, New York, USA

February 12, 2014

Q. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. Sorry if it sounds vague but I simply do not understand or no one at my end has the knowledge.

If we use GPC (Gold Potassium Cyanide) with 68% Gold content and if we deposit 700 mg on our Jewellery how much actual pure gold will be deposited? Will it be 700 mgs or less?

JEWEL EXPORTS - New Delhi, India

February 2014

A. Hi Rahul. GPC is KAu(CN)2 and thus has 68.3% gold content. This is a simple calculation based on the atomic weight of gold (197.2) divided by the atomic weight of the molecule (39.096+197.2+2x[12.01+14]).

Only the gold is deposited on the work, not the potassium or cyanide. So, if you deposit 700 mg of weight change on your jewelry from a GPC bath, you have deposited 700 mg of pure gold. Good luck.


Ted Mooney,
Teds signature
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey

February 12, 2014

Interpret another way, if 700 mg of Potassium gold Cyanide has been used up to plate the jewellery, means 700 X 0.68 = 476 mg of pure metallic gold has been deposited on the jewellery. Good Luck.

SK Cheah
- Penang , Malaysia

November 6, 2015

Q. Hi,

Good day! I would like to ask a question,

We used to outsource our electroplating services and from that batch we found out from our clients that even if they haven't used the pieces they bought and just kept it in the packaging bag (canvas pouch with a acetate film care tag) when they opened it the pieces were already tarnished and a bit red.

We're trying to figure out what happened because we also have the pieces from the same batch on display in our office out in the air and they didn't tarnish red like what our clients said theirs did.

Thanks so much, really hope to be enlightened with regards to this. :)

Marga Fajardo
- Cainta, Rizal, Philippines

November 2015

A. Hi Marga. In the most general sense, the parts you shipped to your clients were apparently exposed to more corrosive conditions than the parts which remained in your office. But without knowing the time frame you are speaking of, or the environment where they were kept, or exactly what those bags and care tags are about, or what the plating process was, or what you mean by "a bit red" ... it's obviously a difficult question. If you can forward some more data about it, I think you can get some help. Good luck.


Ted Mooney,
Teds signature
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey

December 29, 2015

Q. Hi I am Hiren Solanki from an electroplating business; currently I am working on direct gold plating on brass CNC bangles and do Rhodium plating on it.

My problem is after plating I do anti-tarnish on the product but it does not give me the hardness to support the gold plating done on the product. I have also tried PU coating on the product, but after PU coating the shine of the product goes away and it loses it beauty.

Please suggest some good and effective method to overcoat my gold plating and enhance the beauty and life of gold plating
Will be very much thankful for your support and guidance.
Yours faithfully,

Hiren Solanki
Electro plater - India

December 30, 2015

A. Good day Hiren.

You are seeking hardness to support the gold plating, as I am reading. What I am reading is, you are rhodium plating on brass, then gold plating, and applying a PU coating over the gold. The rhodium might serve as a barrier coat over the brass, (to prevent migration of the substrate through to the gold,but you do not state the Rh thickness, or the type of gold and the thickness).
You would need a substantial Rh thickness, to support the hardness, but the Rh deposit would be very thin. We have to remember that Rh is acidic, and I can see the brass losing it,"shine" using this chemistry (sulfuric/phosphoric acid). In the past, nickel was plated to give the brass a barrier coat for gold, and to keep the brass "shiny" and give it a measure of hardness.. Nickel now is shunned by the industry almost world wide.
Maybe an electrophoretic lacquer might give you better results, as PU is softer.
Hope this helps.


Eric Bogner, Lab. Tech
Aerotek Mfg. Ltd. - Whitby, Ontario, Canada

September 18, 2016

Q. Hello! I carefully studied this thread and have now the following question:

I have sterling silver jewelry and then I electroplate it with gold to have gold-imitation jewelry. To make the gold layer last for very long time can I do the following - first make 1 coat of clear e-coating on sterling silver, then apply gold electroplating and then another one coat of clear e-coat. Will the first e-coat be a good barrier in this case? And the second question - will e-coating slightly change the color and brightness of the gold plating?

Aleka Kamiyeva
Personalized jewelry - Almaty, Kazakhstan

September 2016

A. Hi Aleka. I think you misunderstood something. You do not apply a clearcoat before the gold plating (if you did, the surface would be non-conductive and you would not be able to electroplate it. Yes, a clearcoat on top of the gold plating will slightly change the color or brightness. But if it's a thin high quality e-coat it probably wouldn't be noticeable except to an expert. pic of Ted Mooney
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Striving to live "Aloha"

September 18, 2016

Q. Oh Thank you for fast answer! I understand now. The best choice for me for the barrier will be white bronze then? Because nickel is bad for jewelry and rhodium is a bit expensive?

Aleka Kamiyeva [returning]
Pesonalized jewelry - Kazakhstan, Almaty

November 2016

A. Yes, white bronze should be a good barrier layer.


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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Striving to live "Aloha"

Contamination on gold plating

October 25, 2016

Q. Hello there. First off let me say that I have browsed this forum for years to help me with various issues.

As for my question...

For years I have been having a small brass part plated with nickel then plated with gold. On a recent batch a small portion (approximately 400 out of 40,000) have what appears to be grease on one surface of the part. The surface happens to be the largest flat on the whole thing.

The "grease" is able to be wiped off without much effort, but a small shadow of it remains.

The end user of the part is stating that the "grease" is there when they receive the parts and that they believe it is something leeching up through the gold layer (and possibly the nickel layer). I'm in the middle and have never been able to see the "grease" while the parts are in my possession. The plating vendor is stating that it has to be something added after they leave their hands.

I'd really appreciate some help in getting possible ideas of what could be the cause.

Brass base part: Approx. 3/16" in diameter.
Annealed after machining.
Finish is:
Gold plate type II 30 microinches over 200 microinches of electroplated sulphamate nickel.


Thank you for any and all help!

Rob Poys
product designer - Oregon City, Oregon, USA

February 5, 2017

A. Rob,
Are you inspecting the parts prior to plating? You might need to inspect and add a cleaning step. Degreaser and ultra-sonic might help. Also, check with the brass component supplier in case they can provide cleaner parts and perhaps they have an explanation. If it's just a one-time event, poor handling or packaging may be to blame.

blake kneedler
Blake Kneedler
Feather Hollow Eng.
Stockton, California

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