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"Fungus in gold plating rinse tank"



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February 16, 2018

Q. Hello

I work as a gold plater and currently there is a lot of green algae contained within the yellow gold tank. I plate onto sterling silver and sometimes it comes out slightly dark, or grey or just dull, despite having thoroughly cleaned everything in acid. I have read with interest information using activated carbon in a mesh sock hung over the side. Or using a fish tank filter? There is nothing in place at the moment to remove any of the algae. The water colour is dark green and not very pleasant. Please can somebody recommend what I need to do to get rid of the algae?
Many thanks indeed
Debs

Deborah Rose
- Brighton. East Sussex. England
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simultaneous February 17, 2018

A. Hello Deborah, you didn't mention if you had continuous filtration which would give you solution agitation. Algae forms quicker with a stagnant tank. When I worked for a precious metal supplier we did have a algaecide that you could add to the tank. I would pump out the tank, filtering into a clean, leached tank. Clean your main tank using a little bleach scrubbing the walls and anodes well. Be sure to rinse the tank very well before pumping the gold bath back in. Plating equipment suppliers can set you up with a filter system that is sufficient for your tank size. These systems also take carbon filter tubes as well as polypro filter tubes. It would be beneficial to run carbon packs for 2 hours a week. I haven't ever used a carbon sock and be careful if you have to go that route. Passing the bath through a carbon sock has to be continuous for 3-4 hours. Be sure the sock has a micron rating of 5 micron or carbon will be released into the bath. Don't use powdered carbon, but a high grade granular type. So to sum this up, buy a filter system if you don't currently use one. Run the filter system the whole day your shop is open. Run a carbon pack once per week for 2 hours. Check with your gold bath supplier for an algaecide. Hope this helps.

Mark Baker
Process Engineering - Phoenix, Arizona USA
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February 17, 2018

A. Hi Debs
There are a number of broad spectrum biocides that might do the job but you have no idea of the correct dosage or what effect they might have on your solution. You could make the situation a whole lot worse.
You should speak to your process supplier. They have a team of specialists who know their product and have a keen interest in keeping their customer's process operating efficiently as they want your continued business. The suppliers I know will probably send in a technical rep to take a sample and advise. You may well find that the effect you see on the deposit have nothing to do with your algae problem.
It costs nothing to ask !

geoff smith
Geoff Smith
Hampshire, England
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May 30, 2020

A. Hi All,

I'm a process engineer and part of my responsibility has been to set up a pure/soft gold rack electroplater, and to do the process development to start producing parts. Anyways, we also had a lot of problems with fungus in the first drag-out bath. By adding an immersion heater to the drag-out bath, we drastically decreased the fungus growth. We simply turned it on once per day, waited until the water reached about 140 °F, and then turned it off. Immersion heaters are pretty cheap.

Aaron Greenwood
- Newark, Delaware USA
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Previous closely related Q&A's, oldest first:

2000

Q. I am looking for additional ways to control bio-growth in rinse tanks after gold plating. This has always been a problem with acid gold plating baths, and I have seen a number of control methods through the years.

Our current cleanup is to dump and scrub down the rinse tanks (non-abrasively). We have also added 0.2 micron filters on the incoming water.

Other shops I have worked have used bleach to leach out the rinses (not during production!). One of our people says the growth proceeds upward from the drain to waste treatment. We can't dump bleach down the drain because it goes to a resin system.

Our gold is high purity, for wire bonding, so we really can't afford to put biocides in the plating bath or rinses.

Any contributions will be greatly appreciated.

bill vins
Bill Vins
microwave & cable assemblies - Mesa (what a place-a), Arizona

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2000

A. Will UV light work? There are a few lamps made for direct immersion and I thought some people put a lamp over the tank at night. No, I have never done it.

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida
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2000

A. Bill,

I am a QA manager of a plating shop and I am (or I was) a microbiologist so I can try to give you some answers.

1) your system (clean up of tanks) may be effective only for few hours (12-24) because microorganisms have a very fast growth rate.

2) the 0.2 micrometers filters on incoming water can only reduce the initial quantity of microorganisms in water, but consider that: - the rinse tanks are put in the open air - contamination occurs on the surface of tanks - the velocity of growth of microorganisms makes this filtration useless.

3) if you wish to solve this problem, you have to control the growth of microorganisms in some way: the use of sodium hypochlorite or other biocides is the best solution (microbiological point of view)

4)if it is possible, verify the type of bio-growth (algae, bacteria or fungi)and perform the microbial count (No. of microorganisms per mL); you have to ask to some microbiological laboratory to check this.

5) There are many simple systems to do the microbial count in house (dip tests); you may do this test on a fresh rinse bath and every day (or every two days) for a period of time (1-2 weeks); you can define some acceptance limits and when the microbial counts exceeds limits, you can dump the rinses.

I hope it will help you Franca Assone

Francesca Assone
electroplating shop - Torino, Italy
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2000

A. Just a thought. Could bubbling ozone in the tank work? I do not know its effect on the chemicals nor do I know the source of bottled ozone, however!

Mandar Sunthankar
- Fort Collins, Colorado
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2005

A. We experience the same issue occasionally. Clogs up our gold recovery system and is a mess to sanitize again. We've found that adding a little Thymol to the rinse inhibits microbial occurrence/growth quite effectively with just a small addition (usually to the non-flowing drag-out rinse). 20-30 mL for a 10 gallon drag-out rinse is plenty. Lasts for weeks or even longer. No effect on our deposits has ever been observed. Hope this helps.

Jacob Hendrickson
- Seattle, Washington, USA
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To minimize search efforts and to offer multiple viewpoints, we combined previously separate threads onto this page. Please forgive any resultant repetition, failures of chronological order, or what may look like readers disrespecting previous responses -- those other responses may not have been on the page at the time :-)



Bacteria or fungus in our gold plating rinse tank

2001

Q. Dear Sir,

In drag-out tank after gold plating, some gel typed sticky foreign material are flowing and putting on the tank wall. Thinking it is caused by bacteria. Somebody help me the name of fungicide to kill the bacteria.

Thanks,

DN Chung
- Seoul
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thumbs up sign Hi, Chung. Bring some dust cloths with you and take a trip down "Memory Lane" :-)
Before there was an Internet, people dialed up through a modem and posted Q&A's on Electronic Bulletin Board Systems (BBS's). Here's a discussion about biological growths in gold plating rinses from our 'Finishing Technology Hotline' from 1991 which discusses the fungicides you are asking about. Good luck.

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
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April 4, 2012

Q. Jacob: What type of Thymol would you use? I read that the crystalline form of Thymol is only soluble in alcohol and acetic acid, so would you use a different form of Thymol, or a different preparation method?

We are having trouble with moderate amounts of Bacteria ("fuzzies")in our Gold Dragout Tanks. Its a fairly small Tank (20L), and we treat it every week with a proprietary solution from an outside vendor, but it does not seem to help. We have tried both polypropylene and carbon filters on the Tank, but both seem to get easily filled with bacteria. A small addition of hydrogen peroxide does seem to help, but we would rather control the problem then have to act retroactively once there is a significant amount of bacteria. Is there any in-house remedies we could possibly try as to help eliminate and control the bacteria content within the tank without compromising the gold solution?

Thank you in advance,

Carolyn Pokora
- Rochester, New York, USA
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Ed. note: Jacob hasn't been around in a while, Carolyn, but hopefully another reader will help out soon.



To minimize search efforts and to offer multiple viewpoints, we combined previously separate threads onto this page. Please forgive any resultant repetition, failures of chronological order, or what may look like readers disrespecting previous responses -- those other responses may not have been on the page at the time :-)



September 26, 2010

Q. Hello all experts,

I am new in plating field and I am now in a flexible circuit factory for nickel and gold plating. I realise that the rinse tanks after both nickel and gold plating are occupied by slightly red-color sludge (I am not sure what's these substances are but my supervisor tell me that is bacteria or fungi. The spray nozzle is blocked by these fungi even I have already put 1 micron filters at the pump inlets. If this is really bio-fouling, can I add some chemical to inhibit their growth without affecting the deposit?

Sam Chan
plating shop employee - Zhuhai, China
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September 27, 2010

A. Hi, Sam.

Your question was discussed in this forum before the public Internet even existed, believe it or not :-) Please see: "Algae Growth in Gold Plating Rinses" from our electronic BBS days.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
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September 29, 2010

Q. Amazing, Thank you Ted. But both my gold and nickel rinse get the same bio-fouling problem. I understand gold rinse may be more easy to have this phenomenon but why nickel rinse exists this? What is the nutrition for the fungi? How can I get rid of them thoroughly?

Sam Chan [returning]
plating shop employee - Zhuhai, China
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September 29, 2010

A. Common help is very fine filtration, UV light exposure, Frequent tank dumps and finally antibiotics.

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida
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September 30, 2010

Q. 1 micron PP filters already fit in the inlet of the pump, but it just lasts about 3 to 4 hours and clogging happens again. The surface of the filters cover with sponge-like bio-fouling and the spray rinses no longer function. It seems to be so frustrating to replace a new filter for working just 3 to 4 hours. Therefore, I wonder any possible solution to eliminate this kind of problem.

Sam Chan [returning]
plating shop employee - Zhuhai, China
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October 1, 2010

A. First, never put a filter on the inlet side of any pump, especially a 1 micron.
Your filter will probably last at least twice as long on the outlet, as well as the pump will not be killing itself when it cavitates.
Till you get the bulk of the bad stuff out, it will just exponentially grow.
On a weekend, put a large 10 micron filter on the outlet. Later in the day, put another one on for all night. The next morning put a 5 micron filter on it. That night put another one on it, or if you feel good about it, put a 1 micron filter on it.
By a large filter, I mean one that is 5 to 10 times larger than the one that you are using.

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida
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Large 'nodules' on gold rinse filter

5358
May 8, 2017

Q. Hello all,

Chemist for an electroforming shop here. We've been having some issues with our gold rinse tank -- cyanide gold, acid (4.8 - 5 pH). Our rinse tank seems to get a lot of "bugs", especially over the weekend. I'm not sure if these are microbial, or something else. The assumption is they're organic, and we've been trying to treat it with H2O2 or HCHO. Nothing really seems to work. We tried a proprietary chemical (Fungicide G) and it didn't work either.

This past weekend, we came back to see large "beehive" nodules on our filter.

Any clue as to what's going on? Any ideas on how to fix it?

This chemistry has little to no phosphates, is a citric acid based cyanide gold tank. Little else is in the tank besides these chemicals.

Thanks,
Brian

Brian Minchen
Plating shop chemist - Rochester, New York USA
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May 10, 2017

? Hello Brian, is the rinse tank connected to a "gold bug" or resin column?"

Mark Baker
Process Engineering - Phoenix, Arizona USA
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June 29, 2017

A. If I am not mistaken, it is the citrate in the gold plating solution which helps the growth of white fungus in the drag-out tanks. Using other complexing agents instead of citrate will solve the problem.

lee leong tee
leeplating company - malacca, malaysia
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Ed. note: Bio-fouling of rinse tanks is a perennial issue also discussed in thread 13946 and thread 34242.

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