Aloha, fun & authoritative answers -- no cost, no registration, no passwords, no popups
(as an eBay Partner & Amazon Affiliate we earn from qualifying purchases)

Home /
T.O.C.
Fun
FAQs
Good
Books
Ref.
Libr.
Adver-
tise
Help
Wanted
Current
Q&A's
Site 🔍
Search
pub  Where the
world gathers for metal finishing
Q&As since 1989



-----

Remove Boron Nitride Coating from Stainless Steel?




Q. Hi All,
I am a doing a company project/thesis. Our current method of cleaning dies made of 300 series Stainless Steel is benching. It is an ergonomic headache, and causes too much die wear. We are trying to remove a coating consisting of T-50 and boron nitride that is exposed to temperatures up to 1600 °F and are looking for an alternative method that will be easier on operators and increase die life while cleaning of the coating. I have been researching this topic and have found that CO2 blasting, Ultrasonic cleaning, and plastic bead blasting are some of the best cleaning methods for this situation. I am hoping someone can enlighten me as to the real world results these methods produce or any drawbacks to these methods. Any other suggestions are also welcome. Thanks in Advance.

Archy M [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
Job Shop Employee/Student - Lansing, Michigan
2006



? What is benching?
What is T-50?
Is the boron nitride the white, lubricative (hexagonal) or the hard (diamond cubic) type?

If T-50 is an alumina binder for the BN, it may dissolve in hot caustic solution (aq.).

Ken Vlach [deceased]
- Goleta, California

contributor of the year Finishing.com honored Ken for his countless carefully researched responses. He passed away May 14, 2015.
Rest in peace, Ken. Thank you for your hard work which the finishing world, and we at finishing.com, continue to benefit from.

2006


A. 1-BENCHING: Infinite spending hours sitting on a "bench" hand working something.
2-BORON NITRIDE: I didn't know there were 2 types. Thanks for the quote Ken. I always learn from you.
3-T-50: I'm lost too. Please enlighten us, Archy.

Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico
2006



2006

Q. To Mr. Vlach & Mr. Marrufo, I hope the following will answer any questions you have; I apologize for the delay and greatly appreciate your assistance.
- Benching is also referred to as manual grinding. We are using an abrasive media powered by an air motor to remove material on the part, thereby also removing the coating consisting of Formkote T-50 and Boron Nitride.
- Formkote T-50 and Boron Nitride are lubricants used in conjunction to ensure parts do not stick to the die in high temperature and pressure.
- The Boron Nitride is a white powder and it has a hexagonal crystal structure.

The following information is from the MSDS for each product.

Formkote T-50 Info

Chemical Names and Synonyms: Solid Film Lubricant
Chemical Family: Not applicable
Formula: Complex mixture

Formkote T-50 Composition
Components %
Graphite 1-10
Xylene [on eBay or Amazon] 1-10
Toluene 30-40
Ethyl Acetate 20-30


Boron Nitride Info
Chemical Name: Boron Nitride
Synonyms: N/A

Boron Nitride Composition
Components %
Boron Nitride > 95
Boric Oxide > 5


Archy M [returning]
- Lansing, Michigan


A. Depending on the thickness of the coating (which you didn't mention) you may want to try with several successive combinations of sand blasting with coarser-to-finer grades (i.e. 60 or 120, then 240 silicon carbide). This normally removes most stubborn hard coatings. Then No. 12 glass-bead blasting or a similar mesh of rounded steel shot blasting to leave a semi-bright surface ready to work. Chemical strippers may exist but will involve dangerous materials and complicated disposal issues. Does your coating have a different color than the base steel? This helps.

Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico
2006



Q. The avg. coating thickness is .001"-.002" , while max thickness is around .003". I would consider the coating a different shade of the base steel, rather than a different color, though the shade of the coating is dark enough that it is a distinct difference.

Archy M [returning]
- Lansing, Michigan
2006




Cubic Boron Nitride removal/stripping

Q. Hi all,
I'm trying to find an efficient way to remove a Nickel CBN (Cubic Boron Nitride) coating.
The problem is that the CBN coating remains completely or partly.
I use 30-50% volumetric nitric acid solution or even 70% acetic acid [on eBay or Amazon] + 30% nitric acid, but it works only on some parts and not on all of them.
I also tried heating the solution to 35 °C and/or using mechanical agitation.

Thanks in advance.

Arik Strom
- Petach Tikva, Israel
December 17, 2017


A. Hi cousin Arik. I'm not sure what nickel cubic boron nitride is. Are you speaking of an electroless nickel plating with occluded CBN particles? Or is this something else? If it is electroless nickel, I think the chemicals and procedures normally used to strip electroless nickel plating will work. What is the substrate material?

Regards,

pic of Ted Mooney
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
December 2017



Q. It is nickel plating with occluded CBN particles but it is not electroless nickel. the substrate is nickel or titanium.

Arik Strom [returning]
- Petach Tikva, Israel
December 18, 2017


A. Hi Arik. Nickel strippers ought to work well then, but remember that a stripper can't "know" what you want and can't act upon your wish to remove nickel plating but leave the original underlying nickel unscathed. To the stripper, nickel is nickel :-)

Regards,

pic of Ted Mooney
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
December 2017


adv.
Metalx nickel stripper



(No "dead threads" here! If this page isn't currently on the Hotline your Q, A, or Comment will restore it)

Q, A, or Comment on THIS thread -or- Start a NEW Thread

Disclaimer: It's not possible to fully diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations might be harmful.

If you are seeking a product or service related to metal finishing, please check these Directories:

 
Jobshops
Capital
Equipment
Chemicals &
Consumables
Consult'g, Train'g
& Software


About/Contact  -  Privacy Policy  -  ©1995-2024 finishing.com, Pine Beach, New Jersey, USA  -  about "affil links"