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Where can I purchase terne plate and long terne?



(-----) 2003

RFQ: Where can I purchase terne plate?

Ron F [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
hobbyist - Santa Rosa, California
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2004

RFQ: I am searching for the Long Terne Steel Sheet supplier who supplies 0.014 inches thick, This is to be used for a sheet metal drawn component. Please any of you let me know the supplier or distributor.

Vinothkumar
Engineer(Development) - Chennai, Tamilnadu, INDIA
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2004

RFQ: Hi,

We are based in the Los Angeles area and are having trouble finding a supplier for 24 a "long Terne" coated steel, our previous supplier tells us that it's not available on the "left" coast. We manufacture decorative lamps and this is causing us a major problem. Has anybody out there got any suggestions? Any clues would be appreciated.

Regards,

Mick Jenkins
metal works - Huntington Beach, California, USA
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September 2013

A. Hi folks. Finding "Terne" and "Long Terne" is no problem at all. The Thomas' catalog and many other directories list a hundred suppliers.

The actual problem is that the words have lost their meaning -- which makes it hard to know what you want, difficult to specify it, and aggravating to try to get it :-)

Way back when (from colonial times to the 1940s), "terne" and "long terne" had a very specific meaning, i.e., a hot dipped coating of 80 to 85% lead, with the remainder tin, as a roofing material that would last a hundred years and more. But in reaction to the toxicity of lead, alternative coatings of tin plus zinc plus small amounts of other metals started to be adopted and called "Terne Alternative", "Terne 2", "Terne Replacement Coating", etc. Unfortunately this happened so long ago that shorthand & slang crept in over the years ... and, instead of calling the "Terne Replacement" by its proper name, it became part of the lexicon to simply call the replacement "Terne". So today Terne doesn't necessarily mean lead-tin, nor does it necessarily mean tin-zinc ... it ends up meaning nothing at all. Both the tin-zinc and lead-tin are available though.

If you need the lead for chemical resistance or lubricity, you'll need to contact the suppliers who SAY they offer "Terne" and give an actual specification for the lead content and make sure that's what they give you. Most roofing suppliers will claim they have "Terne", and many really believe it, when they haven't actually stocked real Terne for decades :-)

Be careful! Tin-zinc alternative coatings may be satisfactory for a roof, but installing tin-zinc in a chemical environment, when you thought you were installing lead-tin could be a disaster.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
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February 11, 2022

A. I worked in roofing/sheet metal fabrication from 1977 to 1984. The material I worked with came from Follansbee Forge. They specifically stated on their label that the material was surfaced in a lead/tin mix. That same product was still in common use during my last contact with the industry in 1994.

Neal Chamberlain
- Lebanon, Kentucky
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September 17, 2013

Q. I am looking for a simple means of Terne plating small carbon steel parts that might be exposed to the weather. Can anyone offer advice on how I can accomplish this? Is it as simple as pickling the steel in acid then dipping it into a pot of molten lead or is there more to this?

Mark Lyons
Hobbyist, Designer, Tinkerer - Glassboro, New Jersey, United States
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