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Geneva Metal Kitchen Cabinets: Painting, Removing Dents, New Handles & Replacements



A discussion started in 2002 & continuing through 2017

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(2002)

Q. My metal kitchen cabinets are from the 1950s or earlier. I would like to paint them since I cannot afford to replace them. They are in good shape but they are ugly. Someone told me there is a no prep metal paint that requires no preparation of the surface - just paint it on. If this does not exist is there an adhesive type primer I can use before I paint and not have to strip or sand the cabinets?

Susan L [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Gloucester City, New Jersey


(2006)

Q. I also have metal kitchen cabinets that I would like to paint. They are Geneva cabinets and in very good condition, but awful color. Any ideas on how to best do this and the type of paint to use will be appreciated.

David D [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Bowling Green, Kentucky


(2006)

Q. I have Geneva cabinets that are from the 1950's. They are white and in great shape except for the ugly paint. We are trying to redo the kitchen and keep it as retro as possible. What can I use?

Nancy J [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Nebraska City, Nebraska


(2007)

Q. We have Youngstown 1950's to 1960's vintage cabinets. They have been repainted with an enamel paint and the paint has adhered well but need refreshed again (white). What brands of primer/paint would you suggest ? Do I need to use both, or is there a self-adhering paint that will work ? Also, is it true that I should be looking for an auto body paint, or would an enamel paint be sufficient ?

Cheri Head
Consumer - Geneva, Nebraska


(2007)

A. We have Geneva Metal Cabinets in our kitchen and we had a company come and spray paint the inside and outside. They did a great job. I believe they used a special sprayer and paint for working on metal. They look great and were finished in a few hours. Well worth the money since we can't afford to gut the kitchen. I would look under appliance and metal painters in the phone book. Our guy was local to our area.

Carmelina Mattera
- St. Louis, Missouri


(2007)

A. When you don't really care how much it costs, you can do as I did with the 15 piece Geneva Kitchen I salvaged: Disassembled all chrome and plastic, Soda blast to bare metal ($3000) and powder coat ($3200),then reassemble.

Robert Srour
- Rockville, Maryland


(2007)

A. I also have a kitchen that featured metal cabinets made by Geneva. They were dirty and ugly. After cleaning them up, I used a roll-on, epoxy appliance paint manufactured by Rustoleum. When you roll the paint on, the surface will be covered with tiny bubbles. This freaked me out at first. As the bubbles began to pop (immediately after application) they formed a nice, orange peel texture. It took two coats of white appliance paint to cover. I love the result.

My cabinets have white, plastic inserts that fit behind the chrome handles. I painted these with white spray paint intended for plastic to clean them up a bit. They also turned out great.

Susan Eastin
- De Smet, South Dakota


February 14, 2008 -- this entry appended to this thread by editor in lieu of spawning a duplicative thread

Q. Sirs:
I have the ugly green cabinets Geneva Metal. I have lived in the house for 50 years and cannot afford to replace a new kitchen. How can I have these painted?

Shirley Chamberlain
- Grand Rapids, Michigan


February 25, 2008

A. I have Geneva Metal cabinets in great condition and I can not justify replacing them. I have painted them with regular acrylic paints - use a sponge, not a brush - and then polyurethaned them. You can get a low odor, flat to gloss finish with the polyurethane. My parents and my aunt have both painted their cabinets with different methods, but have not had my success with durability. My aunt had her's sanded down to the metal, primed and painted with car paint. These cabinets started to yellow and degrade within a couple of years. My parents sanded and sprayed their cabinets with an initial great finish, but, alas, they too, started to yellow and the paint is wearing off as we speak (or, rather, read). Painting with the acrylics and polyurethaning has had the most lasting effects. Painting with a sponge is scary, but the air bubbles "dried out" and the finish is a matte finish that is very smooth. The polyurethane just makes the cabinets very cleanable. From the voice of twenty years of experience...
Lori

Lori Hart
- Franklin, Pennsylvania


June 2, 2008

Q. I was wondering where you had your cabinets repainted. I have a great set, as we bought a house previous GENEVA salesman. Sorry, no extra parts, but I do DESPERATELY need to know where to get my cabinets painted. Thanks!

Luby Kelley
- Crestwood, Missouri


June 2, 2008

A. Hi, Luby. Any auto body shop (collision repair shop) will have the right equipment and the competent people to spray the cabinets. Although not all auto body shops want to do that kind of work, some are happy to.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com Teds signature
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey


August 26, 2008

A. I have Geneva cabinets in my kitchen that were installed in 1951 by the original owner. We have had them painted twice using epoxy paint.They did wonderfully and I am considering painting them again. The shelves are coated wire so no bugs on the shelves and you can see up into the top shelf easily. If you use epoxy paint you must not stay in the house for 24 hours as the fumes are toxic.

Charlotte Wolfe
- Savannah, Tennessee


June 30, 2009

Q. My question is, I have purple St. Charles metal cabinet that are in great condition, need advise on changing colors.

Jomain Brown
- Lake Charles, Louisiana


June 30, 2009

A. Hi, Jomain. Just scrub them with detergent to remove any film of kitchen grease, very lightly sand them to remove some of the gloss from the existing paint, and spray them with a rattle can of paint. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey


November 28, 2012

A. Okay, well, I painted these myself. I have the textured fronts and smooth sides and I am not a painter but with a small air compressor and a gravity feed paint gun and some 1-step auto paint, this did an awesome job. I however removed all the cabinets to the garage and lightly scuffed them with a green scuff pad, prepped the surface with some cleaner used for auto paint, and taught myself how to do this... and only one paint run on the whole job.

Dave Kavana
- Marthasville, Missouri, USA



Need handles and inserts for Geneva Metal Cabinets

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March 22, 2008

Q. Need handles and inserts for Geneva metal cabinets [circa 1953]

I have white metal Geneva cabinets with plastic inserts that chrome handles fit into. I want to know if there is a source for parts for these cabinets.

Michael Cooney
Homeowner - St Louis, Missouri


August 31, 2008

Q. I am also in need of the plastic inserts! Can anyone help?

Angela Murray
- Falls Creek, Pennsylvania


September 8, 2008

Q. I am looking for a response to the questions from others looking for plastic inserts for metal Geneva Cabinets. Thank you, Jim

James H McRoy
- Southbridge, Massachusetts


February 5, 2009

Q. I, too, am looking for white plastic inserts for Geneva cabinets. I have looked everywhere I can think of,including local salvage warehouses, but with no luck. Anybody have any suggestions?

Margret Schnitzer
- Baltimore, Maryland


April 23, 2009

Q. We are in need of the plastic pieces for our cabinets. Does anyone know where we can purchase some?

Julie Taylor
home owner - Crawfordsville, Indiana

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Ed. note: Craigslist and E-bay are possible places to look. Good luck.


December 29, 2010

Q. I also have 60 year old Geneva cabinets, and would like to repaint them. I need new handles, however. Does anyone have a source for these? Thank you.
Amy

Amy Medeiros
- Arlington, Virginia, USA


February 10, 2013

Q. Hi,
I have a set of vintage Geneva cabinets that have a couple of styles of handles, and some missing handles. Does anyone know where to get the original style of handles? I have not been successful finding any handles. Does anyone have ideas on what I could replace all of them with? There are holes in the doors, where the plastic inserts fit. I cannot use just regular handles.

Thank you

Janine Lee
- Grand Ledge, Michigan, USA


April 4, 2016

A. I found this recommendation and link earlier from several people that were looking for replacement parts for old metal kitchen cabinets. Am going to contact them to find replacement sliders for drawers in my own similar cabinets.

www.swisco.com/cl/Drawer_Cabinet-Replacement-Hardware

Susan Raguse
- Cedar Michigan USA



Repairing dents in metal cabinets

March 30, 2008

Q. We have beautifully redone white Geneva cabinets that we love, but we are wondering how one would go about repairing a dent?

Thanks!

Terry Ross
- St. Louis, Missouri


Dent Out

September 10, 2008

Q. I am just wanting to know if there was any response to the question about removing a dent from a metal cabinet?

Elizabeth A Bates
- Garwin, Iowa


August 23, 2010

Q. Any idea on the fixing of dented Geneva cabinets?

Sally Costik
- Bradford, Pennsylvania, USA


December 15, 2011

A. I am a painting contractor and have finished numerous Geneva Cabinets over the years. I find the best way is to give a good cleaning, light 220 sand, prime and paint with a quality gloss or semi-gloss. No need for epoxies or any of that crazy stuff. We have found an HVLP turbine sprayer similar to the auto shops to be best. There are numerous products that will spray well and will last. One thing, we do isolate the room and use a negative air machine to withdraw airborne particles and keep odor from migrating into the house. Also the sprayer should be wearing proper respiratory protection.
I guess a talented homeowner could attempt but I would leave it to the pro's as even a lot of my competitors stay away from this as they need auto body talent mechanics.

If approved, I will post some photo's of before, during and after.

As for the dents, just like auto body, use Bondo

Price: for full protection, containment, prep, prime, paint, replace hardware, and final clean. My usual price for a normal kitchen is $1,750.00. I may even be too cheap.

David Edelman
- Plainview, New York, USA

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Ed. note: Thanks for the excellent technical information, David! Sorry, but this is a public forum and we do not put readers in contact with each other. Also the site would drown under spam in a month, while losing the income we need to exist if we let companies advertise their services for free in this forum which is paid for by their competitors.



Disassembly of Geneva Countertops?

June 4, 2008

Q. I have also refinished and am looking for 4 plastic handle backs. I think these cabinets are great, but has anyone out there replaced the counter tops. I want to replace them. How do we disconnect the original ones and attach the new?

Yvonne Frydenlund
- DeForest, Wisconsin



Come to Fresh Meadows for Geneva Cabinets

August 3, 2009

! If anyone is that interested in Geneva cabinets from the late 40's early 50's come to fresh meadows queens(new york). Fresh meadows apartments complex houses 3000 families and many of the kitchens still have Geneva kitchen cabinets. Fresh meadows recently began gutting out the kitchens after tenants move out and most likely throw away the Geneva kitchen cabinets.

Ryan S [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
student - Fresh Meadows, Long Island, New York


September 18, 2009

A. Hey I live in Fresh Meadows and yes the guy above me is right. I have seen them toss out the metal cabinets and placing in wood ones. But I did find an image of someone who painted their metal cabinets. Look at the "before" image:

retrorenovation.com/2008/02/13/painting-metal-kitchen-cabinets-jay-and-jamies-nashville-condo-with-retro-renovated-youngstown-cabinets/

Lena [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Fresh Meadows, New York


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3-D Printer

April 25, 2010

thumbs up signHello Folks,
I also have a full compliment of beautiful and rare Geneva Metal Cabinets in the house that I just purchased... I was told by a gentleman on another forum that the cabinets in my house were rare because they have rounded doors vs. square ones... not to mention that they still have the original stickers and I even found the original blueprint in a closet!

Dennis Whitnall
- St. Louis, Missouri



How about 3D Printing of replacement handles for Geneva kitchen cabinets?

January 9, 2015

Q. We've just had our Geneva cabinets repainted (first update in decades as far as I could tell). Some of the handles are discolored and chipped so we are thinking of having replacements 3-D printed. Let me know if anyone has tried this.

Libby McDuffee
- Nashville, Tennessee USA



Painting frames that cannot be removed on Geneva metal cabinets

April 16, 2016

Q. I am in the process of having an auto body shop strip and repaint my Geneva metal cabinets. The cabinets and doors have been completed in a high gloss metallic. They are gorgeous. I now am left with the challenge of their coming to the house to try to spray or brush paint the 2" frames that are not removable as well as to figure out how to remove the Lazy Susan to spray paint. Any recommendations are appreciated.

Donna Halloran
hobbyist - Northborough, Massachusetts USA


April 2016

A. Hi Donna. The powder coating shop may have or be able to make touch-up paint to use as your topcoat which will quite closely match your cabinets.

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Striving to live "Aloha"


March 3, 2017

A. I have a huge kitchen, 14x25. My house is from the 1850's. When we bought the house it had no cabinets in the kitchen just a stove. 5 years ago I acquired a bunch of Geneva cabinets.
As a DIY-er, I sanded all the cabinets down with 220 and heavier grit where kitchen food had gotten into space between old cabinets. All work done in the garage. Use masks and eye protection when working on the cabinets. After repairing and making sure the cabinets looked good, I sprayed them with rustoleum hammer primer/ paint. They look fantastic and are easy to wipe down. If a door gets scratched or paint gives an issue, remove the door, repaint. 5 years haven't had to yet. 29 cabinets, 750 dollars paint and supplies, a little over 30 man hours. I spread the time out over a few weeks. A lot a paint colors to choose from.

john ludka
- west warwick Rhode Island usa



March 6, 2017

Q. I have just moved into a house that has Geneva kitchen cabinets. The cabinets were originally harvest gold and have since been painted twice. The original handles and hardware on the cabinets were removed at some point and new hardware was added. When the new hardware was added, new holes were drilled into the doors and drawers. The new handles covered the original holes. Is it possible to patch up the two sets of screw holes and start over?

Margaret Warnusz
- St. Louis, Missouri, USA


Bodyfiller

March 2017

A. Hi Margaret. Auto body shops can do much more complicated repairs than that with simple body filler. You can certainly do it yourself if you have the patience to do the proper sanding. Good luck.

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Striving to live "Aloha"



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