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Zinc oxide production by French process



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A discussion started in 2002 but continuing through 2020

July 2, 2019

Q. I have plant for production of zinc oxide by French method but I have a problem related with accumulation of zinc oxide over the molten zinc which need to be skimmed. I don't know what are the reasons of this accumulation? may be due to fallen of zinc oxide from suction inside the crucible or may be due to oxidation of the outer surface of molten zinc.
What is the remedy of this problem?

Mohamed El-Sadek
- Cairo, Egypt


October 17, 2019

A. Hi Mr. El- SADEK, I think your problem has to issues. Firstly, the suction may be less and secondly the removal of candles near the opening of crucible may not be proper. They must be dropping the candle oxide inside the crucible. Also check the opening size, for a crucible with 145 litre capacity that gives production of of 2MT per day, the opening size should not be more than 2 inches. Try these suggestions.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - VADODARA, Gujarat, India



July 4, 2019

Dear sir,
Can me suggest you that what have should be speed form rpm of suction blower with connected 20 HP 3-phase motor which has 1400rpm and its suction only from one furnace?

Bhavin patel
- morbi, gujarat, india


October 17, 2019

A. Hi Bhavin, difficult to comment based on motor HP and rpm.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - Vadodara, Gujarat, India



July 20, 2019

Q. Dear Experts;
We are beginners in zinc oxide production by French method and we have several problems with our burn oil furnace like escape of black fumes that have negative effect on the quality of zinc oxide product, crucible lifetime, low yield and high fuel consumption.
Because of these problems, we are thinking to replace the oil furnace with electric or induction furnace. I want to know your opinions about using electric or induction furnace instead of burn oil furnace.

Mohsen FARAHAT
- Cairo, Egypt


October 17, 2019

A. Hi Mohsen, I do not have experience at handling electric furnace but that should be a good alternative. However, your problem of black spot entering the finished product can be solved by simply sealing the crucible refractory joint. And if you use gas, the impact will be much less.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - Vadodara,Gujarat, India



October 8, 2019

A. Suddenly some drought on this thread. I will try some technical tips...

Many ZnO manufacturers in India still use primitive open bag houses located on discharge side of the fan. But a few have gone ahead with reverse pulse-jet type and that is certainly a better solution. I will restrict myself to such bag filters.

Here the entry to the filter should have a one or two degree downward slope to direct the flow to the bottom.

The inlet must extend inside the filter but it should only be half-round inside, only the top portion, open at the bottom.

The inlet and outlet should preferably be oriented at 180 degree.

There should preferably an air receiver near the filter with capacity 1.5 litres per LPM of expected consumption. This will reduce loading unloading of compressor. There is no need to dry the air unless you are located very close to the sea shore and fear corrosion.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - Vadodara, Gujarat India


October 12, 2019

Q. Will there be any benefit of having fins (Extended Surfaces) on the cooling duct after furnace up to bag house?
Lesser the length, lower the static pressure required by the ID Fan & hence lesser the power consumption.

Regards,
Dinesh

Dinesh Mistry
Engineering - Vadodara, Gujarat


October 15, 2019

A. You are spot on. Fins will help. There are other methods too.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - VADODARA Gujarat India


October 25, 2019

thumbs up sign  Happy Diwali to all of you. May it bring a lot of success to your Zinc Oxide business.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - VADODARA Gujarat India



November 12, 2019

Q. Dear Mr. Charki,
How to control Lead content in ZnO manufactured by French Process? We are using Secondary Zinc as raw material.

Regards,

Suvash Roy
- Raipur, Chattisgarh, India


November 13, 2019

A. hope you will not mind if I answer your question. Apply Roult's law and you will get the answer. To simplify, you need to increase charging frequency, to increase zinc percentage in the crucible with respect to lead. Umesh has done some excellent work on Zinc distillation to reduce lead, but that is for purification of RM. Give more details for a specific answer.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - Vadodara, Gujarat, India


sidebar January 9, 2020

thumbsdownThe discussion has gone dry.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - Vadodara, Gujarat India


January 2020

thumbs up sign  Hi Abhay. Thanks for your contributions. The thread has had a good run for 18 years now and new questions may develop over time :-)

Regards,

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January 13, 2020

Thanks Ted. Let us continue the discussion.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - Surrey, BC CANADA


January 2020

A. Hi again. I'm merely the site curator, charged with maintaining its 50,000 topics, and not knowing enough about some of them, including this one, to contribute anything :-)

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February 16, 2020

Q. We are manufacturing Zinc Oxide using bottom and top dross with proper systems to ensure no insoluble matter in our final product.
Sometimes in our regular zinc dross 95%-96% Zn, we get the purity of zinc oxide 98.8%. What is the best method to be practiced for getting minimum zinc oxide purity of approx. 99.5 and above. Please share the possible reason or required design changes.

Is it possible to have very high surface area in Zinc Oxide from french process?

Tanishq aggarwal
- Gurgaon india


March 19, 2020

A. Hi Tanishq
At 95 - 96% Zn, I think it is top dross.
Please reply to the following questions

How much is the Aluminium content of dross?
What do you do to remove Aluminium?
In ZnO, do you get high Acid Insoluble?
Are there other impurities in ZnO?

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - VADODARA Gujarat India


April 17, 2020

thumbs up sign Hey guys, lock down is the time when we can interact. Shoot your questions.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - Vadodara Gujarat India



April 17, 2020

Q. Dear Mr. Abhay and Mr. Umesh,

It's very nice of you to help the manufacturers with the processes and we can come together to provide better outputs and utilise lockdown.

As to my earlier question, I would like to answer to your replies.
1) We are using bottom dross which doesn't have aluminium much in it.
But in some batches we received purity of 98.7% or less than 99%.
As white seal is said to be having above 99% ZnO, some manufacturers claim white seal minimum 99.5%. Is there any changes in cooling of Zinc vapours or air inlet. Please share the possibilities.

2) We are trying to manufacture Zinc Oxide Active with surface area above 35 cm3/gm. I understand from the thread that by reacting Zinc chloride & sodium carbonate, we can manufacture Zinc Carbonate. After that calcination to be done. Can you please share more info regarding calcinator, temperature, wet cake or dry ZnCo3 to be used, what should be ZnCO3, Zn% and process.

3) Also, we want to convert Zinc Oxide white powder of french process to pellets. How can we do so without binder chemical.

4) We are using Zinc remelted ingots of Zinc 95%, 3-4% aluminium, 0.3 copper, 0.1%, problem is after the zinc vaporization we get al alloy material at the bottom, due to which our crucibles are getting broken at only 30 tons life. Please suggest any solutions

5) Our FO consumption is 200-225 L per ton. How can we save our fuel costs.

I am thankful to you for keeping our spirits on in this unprecedented time and I hope all of you are safe from this pandemic.

Warm Regards

Tanishq Aggarwal [returning]
- Gurgaon, haryana, India


April 29, 2020

A. hi Tanishq

1 Check what are the impurities. Normally purity from bottom dross should not be a problem.

2 Active and High Surface Area Zinc Oxide are not the same and 5hey are prepared differently.

3. Without removing Aluminium, there could be issues on crucible life. It would be interesting to note the composition if bottom residue.

Oil consumption can be easily brought down below 150. Check the combustion.

Sorry I forgot to mention, pellets are made without adding any binder whatsoever.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - Vadodara. Gujarat, India


July 18, 2020

A. Dear Mr. Tanishq,
I am trying to reply your queries as follows,
First of all try to understand that quality and yield (output) is depend upon processing / methods.
1) French process is distillation of zinc metal and so it produces highly pure zinc oxide at least 99.3%, anything below is contamination from dirty operations on furnace. The impurities in dross are not able to reduce purity of zinc oxide as they are high boiling impurities (Fe, Pb and Al). in normal course of using dross @ 92% you will able to produce @ 99.3 purity. If you are using 96% dross then regularly it gives @ 99.5 % minimum purity.
2) French process is only capable to produce surface area from 2 to 10 sq. meter/gram. If you want to produce higher surface area then you have to opt other wet processes, which are capable to manufacture high surface area. Zinc chloride and sodium carbonate process gives problem of NaCl salt, so it is not preferable.
3) Zinc oxide pallets without binder is manufactured by compression of zinc oxide powder. The pressure used is above 250Kg/cm2 minimum. These kind granulation machines are available in international market. In India we don't do the palletization / granulation as there is no value addition as customer is not ready to pay extra.
4) It seems the crucible life at your facility is due to other reason than the zinc input quality. Only iron impurity in zinc dross / ingots damages crucibles, due to heavy depositions. Your remelted zinc has high aluminum and it easily come out of crucible in molten form.
5) FO consumption reduction can be reduce by 5 - 10% by improvement in process and some small changes in firing system. But if you want to match FO consumption to 150 ltrs/MT then you need to replace furnaces by automated and improved designed furnaces.
I hope most of your queries are answered.
Regards,

umesh_charki
Umesh Charki
- Thane, India


12373-2
April 18, 2020

Q. Hi,
We are would like to set up a zinc oxide manufacturing plant using metallic zinc in Rajasthan. We are new to the field and would like to first understand the financial and practical aspects of it.

Mahima Tawri
- Bikaner, Rajasthan, india


April 22, 2020

? Hi Mahima, can you be more specific? Giving an entire project report will be out of place here.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - Surrey, BC CANADA


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May 15, 2020

A. I have found people confusing high surface area Zinc Oxide with Active. While HSA ZnO is a porous particle, active ZnO is a Nano particle. The methods of manufacture are different too.

ABHAY NAGLE
Self Employed - Surrey, BC CANADA



September 29, 2020

Q. Hello everyone, I am a new investor in this area and I lack information and experience. I want to ask questions about the material used for the crucible cover, the diameter of the refrigerated channels, and their length, noting that I have two furnaces with two crucibles, i.e. 4 crucibles with a total capacity of 140 liters each. I stop checking the density knowing that the capacity of the big bag 1000 can only support 300 kg, and why

Abdelbasset Arab
- Boumerdes, Algeria


simultaneous October 14, 2020

A. Dear Mr. Abdelbasset Arab,
Raw material is zinc metal containing material (Waste) generated mostly from galvanizing industry. This dross / scrap contains commonly iron (Fe), Lead (Pb) and Aluminium (Al) as impurity. Avoid other impurities as Cadmium, arsenic, antimony, copper etc.
Iron and Aluminum gives problem in processing and Lead give quality problem. So maintaining low levels are advised. As well check Non-metallic zinc (Ash) content, it should be low. Normally metallic zinc should be above 92 -93 % in raw material to produce good quality zinc oxide.
Hope your queries are answered,
Regards,

umesh_charki
Umesh Charki
- Thane, India

October 14, 2020

A. That is a very good question Mr. Arab. I will reply in detail

Abhay Nagle
- VADODARA Gujarat India


simultaneous October 14, 2020

A. Hi Mr. Arab, you must know metallic impurities and metallic Zinc. Lead Cadmium Iron and Aluminium are the commonly encountered impurities.

Lead boils with Zinc in accordance with Roult's law and if you maintain high zinc concentration by increasing the frequency of charging raw material to the crucible you can control lead in finished product. But at some stage, lead will start increasing in the finished product and reach unacceptable levels. You may then make use of Special High Grade Zinc to reduce overall lead or try to recover zinc and lead through zinc crystallization. Cadmium is a low boiling impurity and can destroy the colour of zinc oxide. Best way is to have separate meter and purge out cadmium with Nitrogen at controlled temperature. But a good fumes collection system is a must to arrest Cadmium going to ambience.

Aluminium forms a complex with Iron. You can add either of them if it is deficient, make a complex and skim out.But there is a loss of yield.

ABHAY NAGLE
- VADODARA Gujarat India


October 16, 2020

A. Dear Mr. Abdelbasset Arab,
I am answering your questions,
1) Crucible Cover -- mostly manufacturers use two kinds of crucible covers, one cast in-house with refractory castable and other use refractory tiles. Refractory tiles are more reliable as manufactured by standard methods. You are using crucible of 140 ltrs capacity so (probably BUC 350 or BC402) top diameter is @ 600 - 620 mm. For this kind of crucible, we use two refractory tiles of 600 mm x 300mm x 75mm (@ 60 - 70% alumina) for one crucible. You can use as per your crucible size, if different from above mentioned.
2) ZnO cooling pipe diameter and length -- These parameters are decided by proper designing of plant setup. The deciding factors for this are furnace burner capacity, crucible capacity, climatic conditions of plant, bag house type etc. The suction blower parameters calculated after deciding cooling pipe diameter & length, bag house type etc.
The target is to get bag house entry temperature below 100 °C and there should not be any Zinc oxide deposits inside the cooling duct.
3) The zinc oxide bulk density in French process normally comes to 0.3 to 0.4 gms/cc. which need to increase by removing air trapped in ZnO powder. Normally used blenders or continuous screw compactors. The bulk density can be increased to 0.7 to 0.8 gm/cc for packing of zinc oxide in standard packing bag sizes.
Hope your questions answered,
Best Regards,

Umesh Charki
- Vadodara, Gujarat, India


October 19, 2020

A. Hi Mr. Arab, I think Umesh has given a very detailed analytical reply to your query. He is right, you need to remove occluded air to improve the bulk density. You may use a ribbon blender to increase it to 0.7 - 0.8 gm/cc or you may use a pelletizer to increase to 1.2.

Abhay Nagle
- VADODARA Gujarat India


October 20, 2020

Q. Welcome everybody. Thank you very much for your valuable answers, which helped me a lot in improving the product quality. However, I am still facing some problems cleaning the crucibles. I do not know whether it is because of the quality of the raw material or is there another reason that I do not know. Thanks for your interest.

Abdelbasset Arab [returning]
- Boumerdes, Algeria

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