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topic 1285

Measuring silver plating thickness



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1998

RFQ: I am looking for suppliers of coating thickness gages with a representative in Mexico.

Alejandro Martinez Vazquez
- Mexico
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2000

RFQ: Dear Sirs,

Please advice if your company has instrument able to measure the application of silver (conductive) on copper (non-ferrous). If yes please indicate if destructive or non destructive test and quote one unit including air fright to our address Cairo/ Egypt

Regards,

Alshater Tawfek
engineering and scientific systems. - Cairo Egypt
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Seeking Instrument to measure silver plating thickness on copper

2001

Q. I am looking for an instrument that will measure the silver plating thickness on a .059 copper wire. The plating thickness is .005" and the form is a spring

Thanks,

Kimberly Wentworth


2001

A. I would recommend x-ray Fluorescence.

Jeff Vernier
- Mckinney, Texas


2001

A. Are you sure your plating is 0.005" thick and not 0.0005" thick? At 0.005" that is 5 mils thick. I doubt that X-ray fluorescence can measure silver that thick on your part. It is true that on small diameter wire XRF is the best method but not at 5 mils of Ag thickness. Can you please verify this?

Chris Horvath
- Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A.



Measuring silver plating thickness on copper

2003

Q. I have a requirement for measuring the thickness of silver electrodeposits on copper. The plated components range from 40 to 60 inches in diameter. The testing will be performed on the production floor and in the field. Therefore the equipment needs to be somewhat portable, non-destructive and non-contacting. The silver thickness is three thousand microinches (0.003 inches). There may be an 100 microinches of nickel between the silver and copper in some cases. I currently have beta-backscatter and XRF equipment.

I would appreciate any suggestions on performing this type of testing.

Barry W [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Blacksburg, Virginia


May 22, 2010

Q. Hi, I am looking for plating thickness tester which should be non destructive. I have to measure silver plating on brass, aluminium and other copper alloys - should be capable to test on the curved surface. If you have information please let me know.

Vibaker M
- Bangalore, India


June 1, 2010

A. Expensive - but XRF can do this quickly and easily after calibration using pieces of known thickness. Then you could measure dozens of pieces per hour nondestructively.

Terry Tomt
- Auburn, Washington



Measure thickness of silver plating on busbar

February 23, 2011

Q. Dear Sir,
I work in switch gear factory and we commonly used copper bus bars of different sizes i.e. 10 x 100 x 4000 M in length and cut to our order sizes.

Can you name the type instruments used to measure thickness of silver plating in MICRONS on copper bus bars ?

Regards
ARSALAN

ALP ARSALAN
QEHS MANAGER - KARACHI, SINDH, PAKISTAN


February 28, 2011

A. Xray fluorimeter would do a fine job. Kind of expensive though.

Trent Kaufman
Trent Kaufman
   electroplater - Galva, Illinois


April 26, 2011

A. An X-Ray thickness tester certainly can be used. However, a destructive method can also be used, like the Kocour Electronic thickness tester. You may be able to cut a section of the plated bar for Quality Control Checking.

ed budman
Ed Budman  eb sig
- Pennsylvania
With deep sadness we advise that our friend Ed passed away Nov. 24, 2018




July 7, 2014 -- this entry appended to this thread by editor in lieu of spawning a duplicative thread

Q. I am looking for a way (equipment) to measure the thickness of Silver (Ag) 7-12 microns, and Silver/Silver Chloride (Ag/AgCl) 9-14 microns for pads on flex circuit. Do you have any suggestions? Cross section is not working due to the softness of the Ag material.

Steve Bognacki
- Syracuse, New York USA


July 8, 2014

? Steve,

May I know flex circuit is which substrate (Aluminium, Copper or its alloy, Steel, Zinc alloy, etc.)?

Surya Narayana
Process Engineer - Tumkur , Karnataka , INDIA.


July 2014

A. Hi Surya. Unless I am misunderstanding, Steve is talking about a flexible circuit board which is built on flexible plastic, usually mylar or teflon.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com Teds signature
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey


1285 July 10, 2014

Q. Materials:

Carrier: .005 (0.13mm)thick polyester film, white
(The circuits are shown sitting on a plain manilla folder not related to the problem)

Base Coat: Dielectric Ink

Conductors: Ag ink on traces total thickness 7-12 microns, Ag/AgCl ink on pads total thickness from 9-14 microns

I need a way to measure the thickness of the Ag, and Ag/Cl, but not X-Ray (too expensive).

Steve Bognacki [returning]
- Syracuse, New York USA



Can't Measure Thin Silver Coating on Copper with Mb-tube XRF

October 5, 2016

Q. Hi,

I'm using an XRF with moly tube which has sensitivity issues with Silver coating on copper. When there is significant silver coating, I'm able to measure accurately and when coating 3 µm or less, the readings or not so accurate. But the same sample, If tested with an W tube XRF, it measures even a flash silver coating accurately.

My question is what actually causes moly tube to become sensitive to measure silver or tin coatings ?

Request an answer at the earliest.

Raghunandana Subbanna
Application Support - Mumbai, India

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