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Passivation of 300 Series Stainless Steel Causes Loss of Shine


(2001)

Q. Hello,

I am a quality engineer for an electronics company in the Northeast. I am currently investigating passivation issues on 300 series Stainless Steel standoffs clear passivated per QQ-P-35 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency, dla.mil]. Most standoffs we have received are bright and shiny. We have received a lot that has a dull finish, which the manufacturer indicates was passivated according to requirements.

My question is, would the dull finish be caused by cleanliness issues, or irregularities in the passivation process? Or do different series 300 steels provide different finishes?

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Edward C. Fink
- Andover, Massachusetts


First of two simultaneous responses-- (2001)

A. The difference in reflectivity that you see may be due to the difference in surface finish prior to passivation. If your bar is cold drawn and bright annealed, you would have a a bright finish. If the other is annealed and pickled, you could have a dull finish. Surface roughness evaluation or microscopic examination should show if this is the case.

larry hanke
Larry Hanke
materials testing laboratory
Minneapolis, Minnesota




Second of two simultaneous responses-- (2001)

Mr. Fink,

A. In my opinion, The grade of the stainless steel material has to do a lot with the dullness you are seeing. If your manufacturer has stated that the product was passivated to established standard operating procedures, the next step is evaluate the stainless steel to see the content in the material itself. I know by experience that this type of material has variation from lot to lot simply because of the sulfur content.

Regards,

Joel Garcia
- McAllen, Texas



April 25, 2012

Q. We did trial of passivation with machined sample of AISI 303 & our observation are as follows :

- There is a negligible dimension change before & after passivation.
- There is a significant surface finish change. Before passivation was Rz 3.8, and after passivation was Rz 8.8. As observed, finish is deteriorating during step no 4 (i.e.) pickling.

Our trial details are as follows :

1) After degreasing, Pickling with HNO3 (20%)+HF (2-3%)Temp 50 C for 20 min
2) Hot Water Rinsing
3) Passivation with HNO3 (20-25%)Temp 50 °C for 20 minutes
4) Water Rinsing

Can you please advise on the process and probable causes of extensive surface deterioration.

Or any suggestion for pickling/soaking process.

Regards,

KHUSHWANT
- HARYANA, INDIA


April 26, 2012

A. Your pickle step is extremely aggressive. Can you get a satisfactory pickle with either less temp or less HF or less time?
As you see, it attacks the metal.

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida


May 3, 2012

A. KHUSHWANT,

From the information you gave, I have to attribute your dull finish to your pickling step...I supervise these processes on a daily basis for SS and Al... Your pickling step is entirely too aggressive. The etching rate of the LDA (Nitric + HF) is very fast, especially when your HF percentage rises to 3%. I would recommend you keep your percentage at about 20% Nitric and 1% HF... You should submerge the part in the LDA for no more than about 2 minutes...Depending on the size of the part. Usually I only do a 30 second to 1 minute dip...Good luck sir.

J.M.

Jose Morales
- Berkeley, CA, USA


May 4, 2012

A. If you replace your nitric passivation with citric acid based passivation, you will not have problems with etching.

Pickling should not be done unless necessary, i.e. if there is scale or discoloration that needs to be removed. If the parts already have the desired appearance and just need to be passivated, skip the pickling.

ray kremer
Ray Kremer
Stellar Solutions, Inc.
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McHenry, Illinois
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