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Bronze infiltrated 420 SS printed item needs de-rusting/de-scaling

May 18, 2018

Q. Hi all,
I would like some ideas on how to clean heat scale and rust from 420SS infiltrated with bronze(40%) please. The item in question is hollow so while I can scrub at the outside I don't have access to the inside of the item where it's also rusted etc(2mm holes). I tried using soap and citric acid bath separately but it didn't really work.

I thought about pickling the item in a nitric acid solution but that will etch the bronze, or maybe given a short enough bath maybe it won't be too bad I'm not sure. I can polish the outside with a rotary tool polishing stone but I no clue what to do for the inside.
Any ideas how to go about it?

Daniel Val
- Dublin, Ireland

May 20, 2018

A. I'd try Naval Jelly. Inexpensive, reasonably safe, does a good job of derusting, and leaves a light phosphate film to reduce future rusting.

jeffrey holmes
Jeffrey Holmes, CEF
Spartanburg, South Carolina

May 21, 2018

Q. Hi,
Thank you for your reply. I forgot to mention I'm looking to seal the remaining holes and electroplate the 420SS/Bronze after cleaning, will the phosphate film cause any issues with that?

The only way I can get Naval Jelly here is if I import it, will it be able to derust/descale small hollow areas without mechanical assist? Maybe an ultrasonic bath may help.

Update: I checked the data sheet of the Loctite compound and it says not for use on stainless steel, is this due to the phosphoric acid not passivating it?

I am open to electrolysis for rust removal, but will that also remove heat scale?


Daniel Val [returning]
- Dublin, Ireland

May 25, 2018

A. Daniel,
I would just use phosphoric or oxalic acid. Either will probably remove the rust faster than it will damage the brass.

Of course electroplating stainless usually requires something nasty like a Wood's nickel strike, which would render a moot point any less caustic acid used for precleaning.

ray kremer
Ray Kremer
Stellar Solutions, Inc.
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McHenry, Illinois
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