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Can citric acid solution cause hydrogen embrittlement?




September 18, 2014

Q. For high strength steel springs (Rockwell C of 40) would a 2% solution of citric acid [on eBay or Amazon] measuring a pH of 6 cause hydrogen embrittlement? The intention is to use this solution for polishing.

Michael Formberg
- Chardon, Ohio USA


meher baba courtesy of Wikipedia

A. Please take a look at the discussions on Letter 1216 et seq. and particularly my response of 11/26/13. For there to be unrelieved hydrogen embrittlement, there needs to be some sealing of the hydrogen into the steel. Since there is not in your case, any hydrogen will self-relieve. Besides, citric acid is a very weak acid and the amount of hydrogen will be very small. As Bobby McFerrin said (from Meher Baba) "Don't Worry, Be Happy."

tom_rochester
Tom Rochester
CTO - Jackson, Michigan, USA
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September 22, 2014


A. I have no specific information on hydrogen embrittlement with citric acid but I am inclined to go with Tom.

But I do have an observation on pH. I am a little surprised to find 2% citric acid giving a pH of 6. I have seen DI water near that. From a quick back of envelope/guess, I would expect to find a pH in the range of about 2 - 3.

How do you measure pH?

geoff smith
Geoff Smith
Hampshire, England
September 24, 2014



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October 20, 2014

Q. Thank you Tom! That discussion is very interesting and seems to pertain to my situation. Appreciate the feedback.

Geoff - To check the pH I used test strips from Hydrion. The citric acid had a pH of 3-4 before diluting with water. Once diluted with water to a 2% solution it had a pH of 6.

Michael Formberg
- Chardon, Ohio USA



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