Lead in Tin Lead Solution: Reliable Fix with AAS or ICP

Summary for lead in tin lead solution Discussion

Lead in 90:10 tin/lead solution was giving Emily Gardiner trouble in an MSA acid system because the sample turned blue as soon as the ammonium chloride buffer was added, before any zinc sulfate titration. She described her EDTA, zinc sulfate, buffer, Eriochrome Black T, peroxide, Rochelle salt, and formaldehyde procedure, and said the method had worked before. Dave Wichern suggested that if she has access to Atomic Absorption Spectrophotometry (AAS) or ICP spectroscopy, those methods would directly determine the metal ion concentration and may be easier to verify through an outside lab if needed. Brian Terry added that it may also be worth checking the tin level, since relying on tin as 100% minus lead could affect confidence in the result, though that does not solve the titration issue. The thread does not identify a specific fix for the blue endpoint problem, but it points toward instrumental analysis as the most reliable alternative.

January 24, 2013

Q. Hello,

I am having real trouble with an analysis method for determination of Lead in 90 10 tin/lead solution with an MSA acid system.

This is the method I am using;

Reagents
1. 0.1M EDTA.
2. 0.1M zinc sulphate

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3. Buffer Solution – add 71 grams of ammonium chloride to 600 ml
of concentrated ammonium hydroxide and dilute to 1 litre with
water.
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Indicator – Dissolve 0.4 g of Eriochrome Black
T in 500 mls of IPA and 500ml of ethanolamine.
5. 30% hydrogen peroxide solution.
6. 20% Rochelle salt

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solution

Method
1. Pipette

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a 25 ml sample of the plating solution into a 250 ml
Erlenmeyer Flask.
2. Add 25 ml of 0.1M EDTA.
3. Add 50 ml of water and 3 ml 30% hydrogen peroxide solution.
4. Add 50 ml of the 20% Rochelle salt solution.
5. Add 25 ml of the buffer solution to a pH of 10.0.
6. Add 4 ml of the indicator solution.
7. Add 5 ml of formaldehyde solution and titrate immediately with
the 0.1M zinc sulphate to a deep blue endpoint.

Calculations
(25 – no. of ml 0.1M zinc sulphate required) x 0.825 = g/l lead.

Basically what happens when I add the Ammonium Chloride buffer solution the solution turns blue without a titration. I have tried using more EDTA to complex the lead, using more solution, using less solution making up the buffers/indicators again and again.

I have completed this analysis before with satisfactory results.

Does anyone either have another method please or perhaps have an idea of where I am going wrong!!

Emily Gardiner
Chemist – Poole, Dorset, UK

simultaneous replies January 29, 2013

A. If you are titrating with standard Zn the endpoint is going to be pink, not blue.

Try using less sample. Published methods often recommend using absurdly huge sample sizes (5 ml, when 2 or even 1 would be plenty) and it adds to the time, and wastes titrant.

dave wichern
Dave Wichern
Consultant – The Bronx, New York

January 29, 2013

A. Hi Emily,

Do you have access to Atomic Absorption Spectrophotometry (AAS)

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? Both of these will definitively tell you the metal ion concentration. If you don’t have either on site I’m sure that around the Poole/Bournemouth area there will be an independent lab that has one or the other technique available.

Do you do an analysis for tin, or do you rely on the tin level being 100% minus lead content? It may well be worth checking your tin levels, not that it helps with your analysis problem, but it should give you some confidence about the lead level.

Brian Terry
Aerospace – Yeovil, Somerset, UK


February 1, 2013

thumbs up signThanks Dave. It turns out there is very little lead in our solution. I made up a standard solution of lead and the test worked fine.

Thanks Brian, we are having this confirmed by external analysis. The % results we are getting on XRF are showing slightly lower than usual.

I just want to say a big thank you to everyone at finishing.com. This is actually my last day as a Plating Chemist. This resource has been fantastic throughout my plating career and I will be sure to pass on the resource to my replacement.

Emily Gardiner
Chemist – Poole, Dorset, UK