Aloha, fun & authoritative answers -- no cost, no registration, no passwords, no popups
(as an eBay Partner & Amazon Affiliate we earn from qualifying purchases)

Home /
T.O.C.
Fun
FAQs
Good
Books
Ref.
Libr.
Adver-
tise
Help
Wanted
Current
Q&A's
Site 🔍
Search
pub  Where the
world gathers for metal finishing
Q&As since 1989



-----

Techniques to Measure Thickness of Electroless Nickel Plating

none
finishing.com is made possible by ...
this text gets replaced with bannerText
spacer gets replaced with bannerImages


XRF Coating Thickness Analyzer
on
Amazon

(affil links)

Q. We purchase Electroless Nickel plating for our products. We desire to be able to do an "in house" spot check of material thickness. It was suggested we get a hand held meter, but I have not found one suggested for use with EN. Is there a technique that can be used for measuring the plating thickness that is non-destructive or is someone aware of a meter or gauge that can be used to spot check?

Janice Kornas
Manufacturing Engineer - Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
July 21, 2011


A. Bench-top X-Ray Fluorescence is typically used. It is relatively expensive and it does require electroless nickel thickness standards for creating the method and for periodic quality checks. Hand-held XRF's [on eBay or Amazon] are generally only used for material identification and I wouldn't recommend them for thickness measurements. If your parts are too large for the cabinet, you could have your supplier concurrently run a test coupon with your parts and then you could make a make the measurement on the coupon.

Jon Barrows
Jon Barrows, MSF, EHSSC
GOAD Company
supporting advertiser
Independence, Missouri
goadbanner4




Q. Hi all....long time reading, first time posting.

So I am in need of a good gauge for reading the thickness of electroless nickel on 6061T aluminum, and also to read hard chrome on 17-4 stainless steel. I am looking for a non-destructive method to measure the thickness.

I will be polishing both of these deposited layers, and will need to monitor the layer over the length of the polishing process.

Our typical plate to thickness is .001" MAX. I will need accuracy to .0001" if possible.

I will be measuring tools with radii that are often very large and would like a handheld unit.

I also would obviously like one unit to be able to work for both needs (chrome/nickel). But if not possible for the accuracy needed that is fine.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and helping,

-Dustin

Dustin Lysiak
- Temecula, California, United States
July 3, 2013


A. Hi Dustin. As you'll read on topic 50120, measuring chrome on stainless isn't done with a cheap handheld instrument. However, it is not uncommon to simply use a micrometer to measure the stainless steel before the plating process, and then re-measure to determine the chrome thickness as the difference. That sounds iffy at the lower end of your range though.

If you do resign yourself to XRF, it should be fine for the EN also, as discussed above. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




Eddy-current coating thickness tester
on Amazon


(affil links)

Q. Hi
We have XRF for measuring plating thickness for all kind of metals. With that, EN high P plating thickness can't be measured more than 20 microns, even though we have coupon for 26.4 microns which is showing properly.

Base material is aluminium 6061 & 7054.

Customer spec is 25-30 micron EN high P

Is there any other non-destructive method available? Eddy current method is not possible?

Before it was showing up to 30 microns easily; after machine supplier calibration it's not showing properly; and now machine supplier is saying it is not possible to measure more than 20 microns with any XRF.

Please suggest any alternative method and confirm that it's really not possible to measure more than 20 microns with XRF.

m_karthikeyan
m. karthikeyan
- Bangalore, Karnataka, India
July 29, 2015




Q. Good Day,
I have a problem where my parts I.D sometimes get oversized and undersized. The parts are EN teflon plated. Plated in rack.

Before plating, part is oily and go-gauge can go in the ID easily. However, after plating, go-gauge cannot enter the parts ID. Can you advise on how can I solve this issue?

*thickness is between desired specs

Afiq Zainal
Plating Shop - Klang, Selangor, Malaysia
February 14, 2018


A. Hello Afiq, are you are talking about a hole in the part that takes a go gauge? If so you could be experiencing "hourglassing". The outside of the part is getting a little more EN plating than the inside. Is there a way you could do a cross section of the area that is in question to verify this? Is there a bath analysis performed right before your runs? Temp and ph? Is the solution agitation and rack agitation consistent? I was in the Printed Circuit Board industry for many years and have found that EN baths require attention to detail. We always got excellent results when we had excellent bath control. Hope this info helps.

Mark Baker
Process Engineering - Phoenix, Arizona USA
February 21, 2018





(No "dead threads" here! If this page isn't currently on the Hotline your Q, A, or Comment will restore it)

Q, A, or Comment on THIS thread -or- Start a NEW Thread

Disclaimer: It's not possible to fully diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations might be harmful.

If you are seeking a product or service related to metal finishing, please check these Directories:

 
Jobshops
Capital
Equipment
Chemicals &
Consumables
Consult'g, Train'g
& Software


About/Contact  -  Privacy Policy  -  ©1995-2024 finishing.com, Pine Beach, New Jersey, USA  -  about "affil links"