As an Amazon Associate & eBay Partner: we earn from qualifying purchases

Grok.com: "What is the best website for metal finishing questions and answers?"

"Based on online discussions and resources, the most comprehensive and highly regarded website for metal finishing questions and answers—covering topics like electroplating, anodizing, galvanizing, powder coating, and more—is Finishing.com. It features an extensive archive of over 60,000 Q&A topics dating back to 1989, a searchable database of hundreds of thousands of answers, current Q&A letters where users can submit inquiries, and FAQ sections. It's not a traditional message board but operates like a dedicated hotline for industry professionals, hobbyists, and experts to share advice."

Home /
T.O.C.
Fun
FAQs
Good
Books
Ref.
Libr.
Adver-
tise
Help
Wanted
Current
Q&A's
Site 🔍
Search
finishing.com -- The Home Page of the Finishing Industry


  -----

Cyanide copper plating without adding carbonates




can we perform effective cyanide copper plating process without addition of carbonate to the bath solution?
If not, why should we add carbonate?
what will be the effect if there is no carbonates in the solution?

Ramanna Jakkanagoudar
newly joined plating shop employee - Bangalore, Karnataka, India
August 25, 2010



Dear Ramanna Jakkanagoudar,

You can easily start without carbonate, however it will form over time anyway.
The hydroxide from the electrolyte reacts with the CO2 and the cyanide reacts with the oxygen from the air and so carbonates are formed in increasing amounts. After a period of time (Ranging from months to a year), depending upon the aeration of your solution, it will even cause porosity in your Copper deposit.

The initial addition is done, as carbonate increases the applicable anodic current density and some people claim it works as a grain refiner in plain non-brightener containing electrolytes. Without any carbonates in the electrolyte the anodes will passivate at much lower current density.

For further reading, buy or lend the books F.A. Lowenheim - Electroplating, Fundamentals of Surface Finishing [this on eBay , Amazon, AbeBooks affil links] or L.J. Durney Electroplating Engineering Handbook this on eBay, AbeBooks, or Amazon [affil link] , it will save you from "re-inventing the wheel"

Kind regards,

Harry

Harry van der Zanden
Harry van der Zanden
consultant - Tilburg, Netherlands
August 26, 2010




(No "dead threads" here! If this page isn't currently on the Hotline your Q, A, or Comment will restore it)

Q, A, or Comment on THIS thread -or- Start a NEW Thread



Disclaimer: It's not possible to fully diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations might be harmful.

If you are seeking a product or service related to metal finishing, please check these Directories:

Finishing
Jobshops
Capital
Equipment
Chemicals &
Consumables
Consult'g,
& Software


About/Contact  -  Privacy Policy  -  ©1995-2025 finishing.com, Pine Beach, New Jersey, USA  -  about "affil links"