Aloha, fun & authoritative answers -- no cost, no registration, no passwords, no popups
(as an eBay Partner & Amazon Affiliate we earn from qualifying purchases)

Home /
T.O.C.
Fun
FAQs
Good
Books
Ref.
Libr.
Adver-
tise
Help
Wanted
Current
Q&A's
Site 🔍
Search
pub  Where the
world gathers for metal finishing
Q&As since 1989



-----

Metal Bars Stamped with "P" Found Near Old Gravel Pit in NW




A few years ago my children and I were "hiking" by an old gravel pit in Osceola County, Northwest Iowa. I saw one metal bar sticking up out of the ground and kicked around in the dirt and found nine more. The bars are about 3in. x 1in. x .5in. They seem to be very old and are stamped with a "P", or a "d" if you hold them the other way. I have not found the density of the metal--- but plan to do that sometime. I think that maybe the bars were used as weights on a scale, maybe? I weighed them and they weren't quite a pound. If anyone has any ideas on what the bars might be, please let me know. I teach high school chemistry, so I have offered my students the challenge to help me research this for extra credit--- so far no one has taken the bait! Thanks in advance to anyone who might help me.

Lisa H.
- Little Rock, IA, United States
October 1, 2008



First of two simultaneous responses --

If they do in fact weigh a pound, they are extremely dense. They "could" be platinum. They would be inert to all the common acids, in that case. Do you know a chemist?

George Brackett III
- Maine
October 8, 2008



Second of two simultaneous responses --

What color are the bars? If grey, are they a dull grey or will they polish up to a semi- bright grey? Let us know.

Mark Baker
process Engineer - Syracuse, New York
October 8, 2008



October 14, 2008

It is very easy to calculate the density of the metal and then just look it up in a table of metal densities. From the information you have given us, it has a density of about 16, which is very high, so it could be gold (sg 19.8), platinum (sg 21.4), Plutonium (sg 19.8 - very unlikely, otherwise you would be dead by now!), tungsten (sg 19.6) or uranium (sg 18.9 - again very unlikely, as you'd be pretty ill be now!).

My bet is that your measurements aren't as accurate as should hope and that the metal is lead (sg 11.8); this has a chemical symbol Pb, which would account for the "P". However, it could also be silver (sg 10.5 - a bit low) or molybdenum (sg 10.2 - again too low)

What colour is the metal and does it scratch easily - if it is soft and when scratched shows a bright slivery cut, it is probably lead.

trevor crichton
Trevor Crichton
R&D practical scientist
Chesham, Bucks, UK



You teach chemistry. Surely you can devise a few simple spot tests to determine what the bars are. Egads!

jeffrey holmes
Jeffrey Holmes, CEF
Spartanburg, South Carolina
October 16, 2008




(No "dead threads" here! If this page isn't currently on the Hotline your Q, A, or Comment will restore it)

Q, A, or Comment on THIS thread -or- Start a NEW Thread

Disclaimer: It's not possible to fully diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations might be harmful.

If you are seeking a product or service related to metal finishing, please check these Directories:

 
Jobshops
Capital
Equipment
Chemicals &
Consumables
Consult'g, Train'g
& Software


About/Contact  -  Privacy Policy  -  ©1995-2024 finishing.com, Pine Beach, New Jersey, USA  -  about "affil links"