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topic 49809

Feed water for DM plant


A discussion started in 2008 but continuing through 2019

August 28, 2008

ACRONYMS:

DM = demineralization

Q. I would like to know the effect of feed water quality on the performance of DM plant.
What will be the effect if soft water is used as feed to DM plant?
Further can we recirculate DM water back as feed to DM plant?

Sanjay Gangakhedkar
Piramal Health care - Baddi,Himachal Pradesh, India


August 29, 2008

A. DM normally means demineralizing water. It means vastly different things to different people, from water softening, to distillation, to ultra filtration to reverse osmosis to deionization. So what do you mean?

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida


September 10, 2008

A. The feedwater quality can have a dramatic effect on the performance of a DM (Demineralized Water) system. Typically you designed for worse case and adjust the gallons (m3) throughout to insure that the capacity of the ion exchange resin is not consumed. The regeneration of a DM system, assuming is is ion exchange, is not 100%. Therefore changes in influent water quality can have an effect. The ion exchange system could be either cation/anion separate beds or mixed beds.
As for softened water as influent? Yes, that would reduce calcium and magnesium loading on the resin. But ion exchange is usually anion capacity limited, therefore the softener would not help that end of the problem.
DM water is typically used for some steps of the regeneration. Knowing what you want to accomplish with recycling the water would help to answer your question. This response assumes using ion exchange resin. As stated by other responders, DM water can be a combination of RO or other technology. It would depend on the conductivity (or resistivity)and specific concentrations in the effluent to be produced by the system

Ken Burris
- Nashville, Tennessee



April 27, 2019

ACRONYMS:

RO = reverse osmosis

Q. Is an RO System necessary for a DM plant?

Bharat Joshi
- Thailand


April 2019

A. Hi Bharat. It's not necessary but it may be highly advisable :-)

RO removes salts and contaminants via 'sort of' a filtering process through a membrane. Applying pressure to the contaminated water pushes a portion of the water through the membrane and leaves a portion behind. The portion that passed through the membrane is relatively clean, and the portion that did not pass through is now left with all of the contaminants and is usually discarded. It tends to be a relatively cost-effective way of purifying water and is used in such applications as desalination.

DM can remove more contaminants than RO and generate purer water, which can be necessary, but it can be relatively expensive because you consume acid to remove all the cations and caustic to remove all the anions.

So the case can certainly exist where purer water is required than RO can generate, so you need DM, but the feedwater is contaminated enough that it makes economic sense to do the initial removal of contaminants with RO before the water subsequently passes to the DM system.

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Striving to live Aloha


May 3, 2019

A. If the TDS of the feed water is > 500 mg/L, then an RO before the DM system is cost effective and desirable in most cases. Also, if you are intending to make ultra-pure water, then an RO will make this easier by removing most of the non-ionic or weakly ionic solutes before demin.

Lyle Kirman
consultant - Cleveland, Ohio



August 7, 2019

Q. Dear sir,
I need the clarification for the query regarding benefit in term of saving of regeneration chemicals by using RO product water (of conductivity less than 40) as a feed to our existing conventional DM plant (Dmf- ACF- SAC- DGT-SBA-MB) designed for conductivity 250 Micro semen/cm.

Can we increase the OBR of our existing DM plant with this?

B K Panda
- Punhab, India


August 11, 2019

A. Typically, an RO will reduce DM chemical consumption by up to 95%.

Lyle Kirman
Consultant - Cleveland Heights

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