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Roughness problem in acid zinc plating


2006

Q. Dear Sir/Madam,
My name is Kevin Chamberlain. The problem we have is that the work we are plating on our acid zinc vat line is coming off with a rough feel to it and an iridescent look to it before passivating.

We are running the pH at around 5.2, although it was quite low previously (4.5-4.9). We had high brightener content but have added the necessary wetter to balance this out. We have also added ammonia and permanganate to achieve the pH level, which is currently stable. We are at a loss as to what else we can do, even after several chemists looking at it. I hope I have explained this well enough and sincerely hope you can help. Thank you for your time spent on this matter.
kind regards,

Kevin Chamberlain
- Birmingham, W.Mids, England


2006

A. Adding wetting agent is not going to offset a high brightener content as it is still there. Did you filter the solution after the permanganate add? If not or if not a long enough time, the roughness is probably coming from the particulates oxidized by the permanganate and the manganese oxide breakdown material. If it were mine, I would do a carbon treatment and then tweak the brightener and wetting agents by lab test results, correct the pH and do some hull cell plates. If that works, I would restart production. Shipping marginal parts is long term worse than late parts in most cases.

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida


2006

A. Hello Kevin Chamberlain,

I can't quite picture the high pH that you have been trying to achieve, normally 4.5 works just fine. The water topping up is generally good enough to raise pH levels.

Please bring it back to 4.5-4.8.

Reduce Metal and Boric Acid content to about 20 - 22 grams per liter and ensure your chloride is around 125.

Stop adding all additives for about 5000 Amp-Hours and you should be fine.

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2006

A. Is your bath an Acid Chloride Bath? If it is, I would not be using ammonia or permanganate for adjusting pH. Try using Hydrochloric acid to lower and sodium hydroxide to raise ph. You may be getting that effect from the reaction of iron and ammonia, co-deposition. The permanganate will precipitate your iron out of the bath. The roughness would be caused by either high boric or the tops of your anode bags are lower than solution level. Hope this helps a little.

JEFF W LENTZ
Plating Co. - Lancaster, Pennsylvania


2006

A. Hello Kevin
Your priority should be to remove roughness. Try these:

1. Remove all anodes/bags; clean, change torn anode bags
2. Look for excessive sludge which comes up during air agitation -- idle the tank for 1 hour and decant
3. Clean filter and put in fresh filter paper and restart.
4. Reduce air at/near anode/anode bags.
5. Clean bus bars
6. Try plating on a plain MS sheet for 10 minutes (not corrugated). Ignore mild roughness. Start plating.
You will solve your problem of roughness.

Do not add permanganate in the bath unless it is very essential. And never to adjust the pH! Permanganate is added to remove iron. Hydrogen peroxide also does the same job and is much safer as continuous addition of permanganate leaves undesirable manganese in the bath and interfere in the deposit properties of plated items. For pH adjustment, use dilute Hydrochloric acid only.
Do not bother about excess brightener since you do not face any problems with receptivity of passivations or pitting. But As Mr. Vahanwala said, and as you know, there is excess brightener for sure. Why do not you stop adding for one or two lots!
A carbon pack in the filter and run it for 3 hrs and clean and re-start without carbon will bring back your bath to normal.

t k mohan
T.K. Mohan
plating process supplier - Mumbai, India


2006

A. You have seen many good suggestions, some I agree with and some not. Firstly, the matter of adding more wetter to make up for high brightener. The wetter may be only that or in some systems it is really a carrier. In two-part brightener systems for chloride zinc there is generally a component called Starter, Carrier, Make Up or Wetter (nomenclature depends on vendor) and brightener or maintenance. Some systems actually have a surfactant additive called wetter which is truly one. If yours fits the earlier category, then yes, adding more will help with high brightener because the brightener is not water soluble and the solubilizer is contained in the wetter. The problem with this is that you reach a point where you are high in total organics and drag over an oily film. The cure for this is peroxide or preferably permanganate treatment in a holding tank although lighter treatments may be done in the plating tank with filtration. When solution is clear, then carbon filter. You can also get some roughness from low levels of chromium contamination. Your supplier should be able to check this for you.

From a mechanical standpoint, the most frequently overlooked area is the low pressure air blower (you should not be using air from a compressor!). This blower should have a filter on the air intake as well as one in line. Check to see if these are there and in good condition. If not you can keep cleaning the tank but the air line will keep adding particulates.

Follow what the others said but you also might want to look at your work after electrocleaning. Sometimes small metal fines may be adhering to the parts and are then exaggerated in the plating process as roughness

Gene Packman
process supplier - Great Neck, New York

February 20, 2014

A. Kevin Chamberlain,

The pH of the bath is very high. Please bring the same to pH 4.5 to 4.7.

Metal and Chloride ratio should be maintained 1: 4.5 to 5 ratio.

The roughness can be caused because of High brightener content.

Anode dissociation is more. Please check the anode condition.

High Current density can cause the problem. Please maintain 10 to 20 ASF.

To reduce the pH use HCl - LR Grade.

Thanking you.

Karthikeyan Ponnusamy
- Bangalore, Karnataka, India



November 10, 2013 -- this entry appended to this thread by editor in lieu of spawning a duplicative thread

Q. I have been having a problem with roughness in an acid zinc chloride bath. I had to use an electron microscope to figure out the roughness being deposited on the parts was 100% zinc.

The parts coming out of the plating bath are having little white rough spots being deposited on the part. I change filters everyday, have carbon filtered the bath, and have anode bags.

I can add some of my supplier's starter to the bath and it seems to minimize the problem.

The odd thing is that I am only getting this problem on 2 out 5 plating baths that use the same inputs.

I have been thinking that since I plate zinc die cast parts in the baths that have a rough deposit that these parts could be the culprit.

Does anyone have any ideas on what I could do to solve this issue.

Richard Lee
- Houston, Texas, USA


November 1, 2015

A. Change the anode, use always high purity anodes. Remove existing metal contamination with oxidation and reduction treatment using potassium permanganate and zinc dust.

pandian sakthi
- madurai, Tamil Nadu, India



Operating a ZnCl2 plating bath without HCl

September 25, 2020

Q. I want to lower the pH to an acid bath for Zn (ZnCl2) electroplating (from 6 to 5.5). Since the use of HCl is not allowed due to government regulations (Drugs problem), I want to know an option to HCl; I tried H3BO3 but it does not work very well (the pH change just a little 0.01 units around), HBr (is so expensive).
I really appreciate it if someone can help me.

Jamal Odon
- Gutta, India


September 2020

A. Hi Jamal. I think you are either misunderstanding regulations or not obtaining necessary permits. How do your pharmaceutical companies formulate the hundreds of "xxxxxx.HCl" compounds they offer?

Operating a plating shop without HCl is preposterous, and as close to a Herculean task as I'd ever want to see :-)

Luck & Regards,

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