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Q. Greetings.
I'm trying to troubleshoot an apparent plating problem manifested on a tubular bellows-type electroform produced in a commercial shop. the part consists of a nickel-copper-nickel laminate with an exterior gold layer. My understanding is that the nickel is produced by the sulfamate process and the copper is an acid solution. The entire part is roughly 0.0015" thick and roughly 0.180" diameter. The original aluminum mandrel is removed with hot hydroxide. Some time after completion of the part (typically weeks or months) we see the occasional formation of tiny spots (on the order of 0.001") of translucent green material
which is apparently exuding from the interior of the laminate through pores in the exterior gold. Elemental analysis suggests that this material contains nickel, chlorine and oxygen. Empirical comparison suggests that it might be a hydrated nickel chloride, and I can only hypothesize that this would be the result of dehydration of entrapped plating solution, perhaps in areas of anomalously high porosity. I'm asking if anyone has experience with this phenomenon or something similar, and if my hypothesis is reasonable, what can be done to minimize the entrapment?
medical device OEM - San Diego, California
2006
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A. More likely corrosion of the underlying nickel through porosity in the gold. A somewhat thicker gold layer may solve the problem. ![]() Jeffrey Holmes, CEF Spartanburg, South Carolina A. Hello Steve, process engineer - Malone, New York A. Dear Steve, ![]() T.K. Mohan plating process supplier - Mumbai, India |
Q. Thanks for all the insights. if I'm looking at incorporation of drag-out (i.e. particularly the low pH chlorinated nickel solution), is it possible that porosity of the nickel could be reduced such that the only significant drag-out is superficial and easy to rinse off? how does one increase density / reduce porosity in a sulfamate nickel?
Steve Yon [returning]- San Diego CA
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A. Hello again Steve, Process Engineer - Syracuse, New York A. Steve ![]() T.K. Mohan plating process supplier - Mumbai, India Q. The nickel is in fact porous. I've seen it. Pressurizing this part without the external gold yields a pin-cushion effect ... hundreds of tiny holes. Adding a gold layer seals the part, apparently by plugging the holes in the nickel. What has yet to be addressed is the possibility of incorporation of low pH chlorinated plating fluid within the apparently open lattice of the nickel layer, and whether any resulting reaction between this fluid and the metallic nickel can produce hydrous nickel chloride on exposure to air. Secondarily, what process changes (e.g. additive / current density) might yield a denser nickel without the intragranular spaces which (hypothetically) might be trapping plating fluid? Steve Yon [returning]- San Diego |
Although I am not familiar with your gold/nickel/copper/nickel electroforms, I am familiar with single layer nickel electroforms and nickel-cobalt electroforms that successfully test for helium tightness let alone air tightness. So if these bellows are like pincushions until the gold plating, it does seem to indicate faulty electroforming
Luck & Regards

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A. Hi again Steve,
You speak of hydrated Ni Chloride in the lattice. Firstly, Sulfamate Ni does not contain Ni Chloride. What type of bath is used for the bellows type electroforming? If it is sulfamate Ni, keeping the pH on the low end will improve ductility of the deposit, but the current efficiency drops off some. Get the facts from the Ni bath supplier regarding the use of leveling and wetting agents. You are not giving us accurate information on the plating chemistry that is used, so it is difficult for us to help you.
uses of leveling agents, wetters, etc
Process Engineer - Syracuse, New York
Q. The manufacturer tells me that small amounts of chlorine are added. This is to aid dissolution of the anode material. Additionally, Schlesinger & Paunovic ⇦ on
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clearly state (pg. 173) that without chlorine, a sulfamate solution requires sulfur-containing anode material to avoid anodic oxidation of sulfamate anions. I've had enough materials experience to know that sulfur incorporated into the electroform produces undesirable mechanical properties.
The 'Nickel Plating Handbook' published by the OMG group states (and this is mirrored in Schlesinger and Paunovic) that HYDRATED NICKEL CHLORIDE can be present at up to 10% of the sulfamate concentration. If you don't know the answer to this question, fine, but please don't impugn my understanding of the chemistry or physics.
- San Diego
Nobody impugned your knowledge of chemistry or physics, but your response to a very knowledgable plater, who DOES know and is trying to help you is out of line, Steve! Four electroplating experts are telling you that your understanding might be wrong but that there aren't enough facts on the table yet to be sure. Nickel sulfamate plating baths often have no chlorine in them and rely on sulfurized nickel anodes for anode corrosion (although organic sulfur compounds sometimes used as brighteners may be incorporated into the deposit, this elemental sulfur is not).
Unfortunately it can be difficult to deduce the nature of a plating problem solely from a description of some of the features of the finished product.

Ted Mooney, P.E.
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A. Very well put Ted, thank you. Process Engineer - Syracuse, New York A. Steve/Mark/Ted
You can possibly incorporate low pH (other than the pH of the plating bath, in the plating bath) plating fluid. If at all it is possible, then you have to incorporate it on the outside of the plated surface.It can be Nickel chloride and HCl mixture which will give lower pH. As such a reaction is probably not possible to produce hydrous NiCl2 on exposure to air to fill in the pore.
All these sound good as hypothetical answer to your hypothetical question.
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