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topic 37711

White or Grey Streaks on Anodised Extrusion


A discussion started in 2005 but continuing through 2019

2005

Q. Dear Sir/ Madame,

We are an aluminium extrusion manufacturing company and we are facing a problem of white and dark grey streaks on the surface after anodising. The details are:

Aluminium Alloy : 6063 T6 (Mg 0.7%, Si 0.5%, Fe 0.15%, Cu 0.096%)

Finish : Clear Satin Anodising 201r1

Process adopted:

1. Etching in Caustic (65 gms/ltr) at 50 °C for 10 mins.
2. Desmutting in Nitric Acid
3. Anodising in Sulphuric based bath for 25 mins to get 10 micron coating.

After this process we get white or dark grey streaks anywhere in the length of the extruded profile. The position of these streaks is not fixed and it appears anywhere. The pieces are 16 inch long.

If you can suggest a possible method to get rid of these we will be very grateful.

Thanking you,
Best regards,

Chinmay Agrawal
metals - Jaipur, Rajasthan, India


2005

A. Try with a 2% HF in the nitric acid bath. But you will need a lot of ventilation.

Ram. Gar
- Livonia, Michigan


2005

A. Further to the last reply, try a 20 percent nitric solution without the HF -- a lot less nasty! Leave to soak for about one to two hours, then rinse and process as normal. The problem is the extrusion lubricants, which the nitric seems to remove, the time factor is a bit of an issue regarding production costs, but reworks are nil as far as I've found. This has worked well for me over the years. I hope this is of some use.

J Roberts
- Bournemouth, Dorset, England


2005

A. The streaks visible after anodizing mostly come from extrusion process. There are several causes:

1) The weld lines for hollow extrusions from porthole dies.
2) Lack of quality in the extrusion billet. Too thick segregation zone around the periphery of the billet, nonuniform homogenization or non-homogenized billet.
3) Oxides being extruded due to too much difference between the diameters of the billet and container hole.
4) Dirty inside surface of the container hole.

Chemical etching emphasizes visibility of such defects after anodising.

"Satin Brushing" prior to anodising can minimize risk of streaks. "Satin Brushing" is done by a machine using sets of brushes made of stainless steel wire. This process also minimizes cost of caustic etching as you need less time (about 30-50% less) for the caustic etching.

Timur Ulucak
aluminum extrusions & finishing - Istanbul, Turkey


sidebar 2005

One does not want to wire brush parts that are to be anodized, as the bristles can dislodge from the brush, and become embedded in the substrate, leaving pits, or bare areas after anodizing.

Marc Green
Marc Green
anodizer - Idaho


2006

We have been wire brushing all aluminium extrusions we anodise to minimize the risk of white/gray streaks that may arise from extrusion process. The "satin brushing machine" we use a special machine dedicated for that purpose. The result is about 800 USTonne good satin anodised extrusions for architectural use. We have three machines (one with 3+3 sets of brushes, one with 4+4, one with 6+6 and just ordered the forth one with 6+6 brush sets. The SS wires that make the brushes are 0.15-0,40 mm thick.

Regards,

Timur Ulucak
aluminum extrusions & finishing - Istanbul, Turkey

2006

Timur is probably ok in using SS brushes for his jobs, where small pits from embedded SS wouldn't be noticeable. But, as a rule, it's not a good idea, especially where good corrosion resistance is required.

Marc Green
Marc Green
anodizer - Idaho

July 12, 2014

Dear Chinmay,
Firstly I feel your chemical composition is on the higher limits of 6063 alloy (you said Si 0.5% & mg 0.7%).
Also you need to check the welding chamber depth of your dies; I suggest you to maintain the weld chamber depth around 22 mm.
Because your chemical composition is high, that's why your extrusion pressure is also higher than normal; and to overcome that problem your operator is pre-heating the billets more than normal temperature which surely leads to various surface defects.
You said that "Fe" content of your billets is 0.15% max which I doubt if you are not using primary grade billets. Still I think up to 0.25% of "Fe" content doesn't make much of difference if you can limit your billet composition: Si 0.40 to 0.44%, Mg 0.52 to 0.55%, with 'Fe' content 0.25% max.
Also check bearing length of your dies. Never over-design your dies thinking that the stronger you make a die that will give you more die life ... that's a myth. In fact you make a weaker die in turn. I am sure you will get better result if you try what I suggest.

Gautam BanerjeeTechnical Director
- pune, maharasthra, india



Stripes appearing in aluminum after anodizing

January 14, 2019

Q. In my factory, (not a job shop) we laser cut and punch several thicknesses of aluminum daily. We recently received a shipment of .090" 5052-H32 Aluminum heat tracked sheet with plastic Nitto sheet on one side. This is a standard material for us. Upon receiving our parts back from anodize, we can see very bold, uniform lines on the surface, both sides. The lines are blue tinted, and the base material has turned a gray color. We have seen this result from three different anodize vendors now, so it must be in the material. These lines show up on type II clear, and Type III Hard coat.

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These parts have also been put through a timesaver on the back side, yet the stripes still appear. Has anyone seen this before? Does anyone know what is causing this?

Evan Parent
Manufacturing Engineer - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA



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