finishing.com -- The Home Page of the Finishing Industry

HomeFAQsSuggested
Books
Help
Wanteds
Advertise
on this site
FORUM
current topics
Live! From Pine Beach NJ: The world's most popular metal finishing website, and the internet's friendliest corner

topic 17172

Paint Adhesion on chromated aluminum


2002

I am currently working on a project which involves the spray painting of an alchromated (chemically converted) aluminium component. Am experiencing problem with paint adhesion. Can anyone advise on the reasons? and a solution.

Many Thanks,

Keith Edgar
- Belfast, Northern Ireland


First of two simultaneous responses--2002

For paint adhesion the chromate must be very thin. The gel coating will shear and peel the paint if it is too thick.

robert probert
Robert H Probert
Robert H Probert Technical Services
supporting advertiser
Garner, North Carolina
Editor's note: Mr. Probert is the author of Aluminum How-To / Aluminio El Como
and co-author of The Sulfamate Nickel How-To Guide


Second of two simultaneous responses-- 2002

Hi Keith,

The answer to your question requires detective work. Poor paint adhesion can result from:

1. Poor cleaning of the substrate.
2. Poor or non-uniform etching of the substrate.
3. Poor de-oxidizing of the substrate.
4. Poor chromating of the substrate.

You have to be sure that all of your chemical stages are running within specification and are doing the job they're supposed to do. And how about the rinses?
5. Are they being overflowed adequately?
6. Are they being dumped daily?

Then you need to look at the paint line.

7. Is the paint being applied at the proper thickness?
8. Is the cure oven at the right temperature?
9. Are the parts in the cure oven for a sufficiently long time?

There's a very good chance that the answer to your adhesion problem can be found when you answer the above questions.

George Gorecki
- Naperville, Illinois


2002

Thanks for your help - very interesting. I tried posting some pictures but have had some technical difficulties! Just as a point of interest, do you think the time between chemical conversion and painting would have any effect on the adhesion?

17172

Many Thanks,

Keith Edgar
- Northern Ireland


2002

Hi Keith,

A long time between pretreatment and painting can have an effect. The magnitude of the effect is related in part to the environment where the treated is stored prior to painting. If the work sits in a corrosive environment, then the protective quality of the conversion coating can be adversely affected.

Ideally, the pretreated metal will be painted almost immediately after application of the conversion coating.

George Gorecki
- Naperville, Illinois



If you have a question in mind which seems off topic, please Search the Site

ADD a Q, A, or Comment on THIS topic START an UNRELATED topicView CURRENT HOT TOPICS

Disclaimer: It's not possible to diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations may be deliberately harmful.

  If you need a product/service, please check these Directories:

JobshopsCapital Equip. & Install'nChemicals & Consumables Consult'g, Train'g, SoftwareEnvironmental ComplianceTesting Svcs. & Devices


©1995-2019 finishing.com, Inc., Pine Beach, NJ   -   About finishing.com   -  Privacy Policy
How Google uses data when you visit this site.