Summary for non-polluting alternative to phosphating Discussion
Non-polluting alternative to phosphating for pump parts is the core question here. The asker says two pump components—a powder metal cam ring and an SG 500/7 iron end cover—are always immersed in oil but still contact sliding parts, and asks whether phosphating is needed at all given the pollution concerns. The thread excerpt shown does not include a technical reply or recommendation, so no alternative process is actually identified in the available text. Because there is no answer content beyond the question itself, the safest takeaway is that the need for phosphating and any replacement process would have to be evaluated based on the parts’ wear, friction, and lubrication requirements rather than assumed from the excerpt alone.
Q. 1) We are phosphating a few pump parts called a) Cam ring (powder metal) b) End cover (SG 500 / 7 iron) both are always immersed in oil but come in to contact with sliding parts. Do we need to phosphate these at all (considering this being a polluting process)?
2) What is an effective alternative non polluting process?
G. Muralidharan
steering systems – Chennai, TamilNadu, India
2002
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A. Hi, Muralidharan. Yes, in my opinion you must phosphate these pump parts. I was involved in half a dozen manganese phosphatization installations for American manufacturers, which produced millions of reliable engine, auto, and earth moving equipment parts. Phosphating is an essential treatment to prevent scoring and galling during the break-in period even though the parts are immersed in oil; plus, oil runs off the parts and phosphatization doesn’t. You don’t want your customers to leave their new car at an airport for a month and then have things seize when they try to start it 🙂
But why do you say that phosphating is a “polluting process”? All processes are “polluting processes” if you let the waste products out into the environment and “non-polluting processes” if you don’t. The tiny amount of phosphatization products on scrapped parts surely can’t be a problem; and phosphate is certainly not nearly as toxic or noxious as alternative chemical treatments like terne plating.
True pollution would be to once again fill the junk yards of the world with oily scrap by throwing away the fabulous progress we have made in the last few decades of doubling and tripling the lives of automobile parts. Good luck, and I hope you are not under unbearable pressure towards producing inferior parts and polluting our world with scrap by avoiding such an extraordinarily effective and proven surface treatment as phosphatization 🙂
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