Summary for din 50938 black oxide Discussion
DIN 50938 black oxide is the focus of this thread, with readers trying to confirm whether the German spec calls for alkaline blackening/black oxide and what the 5.5 g/m2 requirement means. Enrique Segovia asked whether the English wording “Alkaline Blackening (Black finishing) of Iron materials” and the German title “Brunieren von Gegenstandan” indicate black oxide; Ted Mooney replied that the standard is available in both German and English and suggested obtaining the English copy rather than guessing. Years later, Rajendra Pawar asked about 72 hours NSS after black oxidation under DIN 50938 C, and Mathews Lasu asked about DIN 50938 Fe/B/T4 plus 70 hours corrosion protection per ISO 6270-2 and the 5.5 g/m2 mean mass. Ted Mooney said it sounded like the parts must meet both DIN 50938 and the separate humidity test, but he did not have the standard on hand and asked whether it also specifies a humidity or salt-spray exposure requirement beyond the weight requirement.
Q. We need to perform a finish according to DIN 50938 but the spec we received is in German. Almost on top of the page it says in English: “Alkaline Blackening (Black finishing) of Iron materials”.
The german title is: “Brunieren von Gegenstandan”
We think it is black oxide since its an alkaline blackening operation, but somewhere in the spec there is a table that mentions a requirement of 5.5 g/m2
Is our assumption correct? Do you know what the spec calls for?
Thank you very much for your help,
Enrique Segovia
– Monterrey, Mexico
2001
A. Hi Enrique. The good news is that the spec is available in both German and English versions. Your command of English seems excellent, so I’d suggest just getting an English copy. Good luck!
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
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Q. We have got a component which specifies the following: Surface Finish: Alkaline Black to DIN 50938 Does this mean Black oxidizing or phosphatizing?
Sudhir Aptekar
– Belgaum, Karnataka, India
2002
A. Hi Sudhir. It’s a black oxide finish. But don’t even think about offering to process to a spec without having the spec on hand, because you’re not offering to do “a black oxide finish”, you’re offering to “Black Oxide per DIN 50938” — that’s a very big difference :-)
Ted Mooney, P.E.
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Need 72 Hrs. salt spray resistance after black oxidation
January 28, 2008
Q. Hi,
One of our components requires 72 hrs. NSS results after black oxidation.
Specification is DIN 50938 C, and suggests a three stage oxidation process in hot alkaline bath with temperature difference of 5-10 °C at each stage in increasing stages from first bath to third one.
Is anybody familiar with the above process and with the required results of NSS?
Please share the ideas.
Thanks.
Rajendra Pawar
Plating shop owner – Pune, Maharashtra, India
Q. My Customer requires Black Oxide coating as per DIN 50938 – Fe/B/T4 and Corrosion protection of 70 hours as per ISO 6270-2
But as per DIN 50938. The Black Oxide coating mean mass must be 5.5 gms/m2. Please clarify.
Mathews
Lasu mathews
– Chennai, Tamilnadu, India
July 14, 2016
A. Hi Mathews. It sounds to me like, in addition to processing to DIN 50938, the parts must also pass a 70 hour humidity test per ISO 6270-2. I do not have DIN 50938 on hand, but you must. Can you tell us if it specifies a humidity or neutral salt spray exposure requirement in addition to the weight requirement?
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
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