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Manganese Phosphating




We are trying to do phosphating (Zn & Mn) but prefer to do with Mn , but the erosion is varying & there is no consistent pattern in the material erosion so that we can keep stock accordingly. Material is SAE 52100 bearing steel, component to be phosphated is a bearing race. pl suggest solution. Also, is Hydrogen Embrittlement is required to avoid cracks.?

Regards,

S MEENAKSHI SUNDARAM
- CHENNAI, TAMILNADU, India
2002



Mr. Sundaram,

Hydrogen relief (not embritlement) would certainly be advisable if your parts are prehardened above 45-48 Rockwell C (which is obvious according to the use and type of steel). That's unless you don't treat them in acids (and I bet you will have to).

Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico
2002



2002

Dear Mr. SUNDARAM,

Our MnPO4 shop has no baking at the end of the plating process. The H2 embrittlement issue has been a concern for our MnPO4 plated harden products. We decided to skip the acid pickling (the bath is acidic though), it more or less, helps to reduce the total H2 that 'diffused' into the base.

By doing this, products cleanliness and surface activeness would be the constraints. I'd like to hear your comment too

The best way, as suggested by Mr. Marrufo, is to install baking system for H2 relief.

Regards

chee hong lee
Chee Hong, Lee
- Singapore


You didn't list any type of surface preparation that you are using. The surface preparation has a lot to do with the uniform surface finish. A grit blast using appropriate media, with immersion directly into your bath works nicely. We are also involved with processing using grain refiners/conditions as an alternate to blasting and have had excellent results. Either method will produce a uniform coating, if your not already doing it. Good luck

Tim Martin
plating shop - Springfield, Massachusetts
2002




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