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Salt spray solution pH variation


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2002

Q. Dear Sirs,

Can anyone tell me how salt spray solution pH could change from when is made (6.5 to 7.2) to when is recovered for inspection?

Regards,

Rui Luís
FCUL - Portugal


2002

A. Hi Rui,

I have seen the same phenomenon many times. A useful trick to help stabilize the pH is to add a small amount of dilute NaOH to the solution after you have dissolved the NaCl. You may have to play around to find just the right amount of NaOH.

George Gorecki
- Naperville, Illinois


simultaneous 2002

A. I guess I'm not surprised that a slightly acid solution, upon reacting with metal and causing it to corrode, would tend to release some small amount of hydrogen, causing a rise in pH. I think George has offered good advice: if you want the water to exhibit pH stability it should have some alkalinity, probably as much as the testing spec allows.

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Ted Mooney, P.E.
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2002

A. Keep in mind that measuring pH when you are that close to neutral (7) is difficult. There can be variation in the measurement, not just the solution.

Also, the deionized water used for salt spray is still very pure even after the sodium chloride is added. Pure water can be a very aggressive solvent. Carbon dioxide in the air can dissolve into the solution and slightly change the pH.

tim neveau
Tim Neveau
Rochester Hills, Michigan


2002

A. Rui - Keep in mind that ASTM B117 [affil. link to spec at Techstreet] states that the pH of the "Collected solution" should be between 6.5 and 7.2 If you have to adjust the solution prior to use, that is allowable.

Cynthia L. Meade
- Sylvania, Ohio, USA



November 29, 2011

Q. I have used different types of pH meters for my salt spray solution, and none of them are really stable within my range of 6.5-7.2. Do you know of a good one?

Clarence Gossett
chemical lab tech - Columbus


December 2, 2011

A. It may simply be time for a new pH meter. A few questions I do have for you is, do you calibrate your meter before you use it and at what pH points? And how do you store it? Water (DI or tap) is terrible for a meter, it is supposed to be stored in a buffered solution, at approximately pH 4, if I remember correctly. pH meters are a personal preference. I would look into getting some catalogs from Aquaphoenix or MSC. I personally hate the "pH pen" that is manufactured, I like the pH meters that are a probe with a meter corded to it.

Aimee Longacre
- Savannah, Georgia, USA



September 7, 2020 -- this entry appended to this thread by editor in lieu of spawning a duplicative thread

Q. What should be the standard pH level of water for the Salt Spray Test Chamber while collecting the fog collection? And What if it is more than the standard value.

Bhushan Gaikwad
- Pune, Maharashtra


September 2020

A. Hi Bhushan. The spec/standard you are following for how to run the salt fog test will tell you the pH. If you are testing in accord with ASTM B117, the pH of the collected water must be between 6.5 and 7.2 as noted on this page. If the pH is higher than allowed, the samples might corrode either more slowly or more rapidly, but in any case the testing is not valid if the parameters are out of range or variables are uncontrolled.

Please find out what spec the components are processed to, and what salt fog test you are supposed to run, and obtain those specs/standards because there is a lot involved in running the salt spray test meaningfully (in accord with the test spec), and the spec you are processing to will tell you the test requirements and how to interpret the salt fog test results.

Luck & Regards,

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