Simple method of black anodizing aluminum wanted
I 'd like to black anodize / dye some microscope tubes and other small optics stuff by a simple method, obtaining good result (non reflecting black matte finish with no significant change in dimensions). I have access to chemicals as a lab chemist but not to commercial products.
Does anybody have any suggestions?
Without using commercial products and with no experience in anodizing, it is not very likely that you will obtain "no size change and good results" on black anodizing. It is not worth the disposal costs for a few pieces. Recommend you contact a small commercial shop.James Watts
- Navarre, Florida
You say you have access to chemicals; what about a rectifier and cathodes? And other equipment necessary for anodizing?
I agree with the above response: contact a small commercial shop.Gerald Janssen
aluminum coil anodizing - Streamwood, Illinois
The Bendix Corporation's Teterboro, New Jersey, $3 Million/year, military specification, multilayer printed wiring board facility, and captive anodizing, plating, and casting impregnation shop was started in the 1950's by a few guys developing single sided laminate in 5 gallon tanks. Today, the same thing is possible, except you won't have the luxury of waiting twenty years before strapping a waste treatment system to the end of the line.
The Electroplating Engineering Handbook (see our book section) is a good start to read about what you need. The new edition does not give the name of a black dye. Nigrosine JB was mentioned in a previous edition, but may be better off getting a sample of dye from one of the major suppliers.
Sulfuric acid anodize with a black dye, sealed with nickel acetate sounds like what you should investigate.
More as you happen.
Thank you all for your kind reply to my question,
I am still looking for a simple process of black anodizing aluminum in a lab environment. Of course I am aware that other devices (such as power supplies) are needed, but in Greece where I live is almost impossible to purchase small quantities of "dedicated" commercial products such as dyes.
So I 'd like to hear from a simple method suitable for students that could sound like the following example:
- Prepare a 10% w/w sulphuric acid solution.
- Use lead cathode of dimensions xx cm2
- Anodize with current density of 1 Amp/dm2 for 1 hour at 90 C
- Dye with plotter ink for 15 minutes in 40 C
- Seal in 10% nickel sulphate for 12 hours at 80 C
Thanks againThanasis Ioannidis
For school purposes only, not to obtain a useful coating.
- clean in a solution of bicarbonate of soda, about 8 oz /gal, a few drops of liquid soap, and enough lye to make it fizz quite a bit at 140-150 F.
- Dip in a 50% nitric acid solution for 5 - 30 seconds at room temp.
- Anodize at 15 volts for 30 to 45 min in a 15% by weight solution of sulfuric acid at a constant 72 F. This will require an ice bath. Use 6061 or 6063 aluminum cathode at a ratio of 1 to 3 times more part area than cathode area. Ramp voltage up over a minute or so.
- dye with any dye stuff available, pH about 6, 130 F for 30 min.
- Seal in distilled water. Nickel ACETATE at about 1 teaspoon per liter will help. Boiling! for 15 min. pH 5.5 to 5.8
- blow dry or air dry.
Rinse well between all steps.
Notice the temps are F, not C, and are very important.James Watts
- Navarre, Florida
It's a cruel, cruel thing that you did, Jim. I know for a fact that this is the very procedure used to anodize Sojourner parts:-0 . From reading letter 1217, you can also use sodium dichromate as a seal. Anyhow, we don't want to do anything useful in school! Get a bad reputation that way.
Falls Township, Pennsylvania
Thanks Jim. I will try this method and, of course, I will not expect the best results. I 'll let you know.
Perhaps is my limited knowledge in english (or in the stated method itself) the reason of not understanding why Tom got so angry about.Thanasis Ioannidis
TI: Mr. Watts did a very nice thing, showing you a perfectly good method. I was only kibitzing with Jim. Now there is another English word:-) You should ignore half the things I say, (which half?).
But we don't want to hear that you don't expect the best results. It must be perfect. I just ran across a formula for nickel acetate seal, in case you cannot find a proprietary supplier. Nickel acetate 6 g/liter, boric acid 8 g/l. pH 5-6, made with deionized water, 70 -90 °C for 15 minutes. Perhaps you can try the black ink that is used in the inkjet printers for a dyestuff.
Falls Township, Pennsylvania
- degrease as mentioned before
- etch at 50 C during 2 - 20 min
etching solution :
50 g/l sodium hydroxide
5 g/l sodium gluconate
25 g/l sodium nitrite
25 g/l sodium nitrate
- dip in a 50% solution of nitric acid
- anodise in 180-200 g/l sulphuric acid during 45 min at 1,5 A/dm2 at 18-20 C
- rinse in demin water
- dye during 15 min in a commercial dye such as SANDOZ
(Clariant) MLW 10 g/l 50 C.
If you can not obtain this powder, let me know maybe I can send you some.
- rinse and seal in damp for 1 hour
Looking for the process described above. Specifically, I'm looking to build cylinder liners for a prototype engine. (external combustion) The block, if you will, is aluminum. Without liners will wear faster than desired. I think aluminum liners or sleeves hardened by this process may do the trick. Aluminum is necessary for heat transfer, an important function if the engine is to run properly. If nitrided, what is the coat thickness? Can this surface be finished ground? What's the difference between anodised and nitride? Love the humor contained above. Got it right away. The Net is great when productive things like this are posted. Many thanks!Chuck Gallup
stirling engine prototype -
To my knowledge aluminum cannot be nitrided. Anodizing is artificial "rusting" of the aluminum to develop a hard corrosion-resistant surface of aluminum oxide. You might look up "Nikasil", a coating made especially for engine parts (see letter #1671).
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Nitride can be obtained on aluminum but is very costly if you try and do it yourself. The semiconductor industry nitrides silicone wafers and sometimes the parts that are used in the process are aluminum and get coated all the time from the nitride.And after a period of time it has to be removed because of the build up on the surfaces which become to thick to use. Might find an chemical engineer that is in the business of semiconductors and they might guide you the right way.James Wallin
- Mesa, Arizona
October 19, 2008
For a flat black finish you could try Birchwood-Casey Aluminum Black [linked by editor to product info at Amazon] available through gun stores .Or you could visit Ron Newman's sight on You Tube for simple step by step process. HalHal Edmondson
- Ampbellford, Ontario, Canada
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