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Titanium scratch marks on porcelain
Q. I recently bought a titanium watch and now have discovered that it is the culprit that is marking my bathroom sink with small black 'scratches' which I cannot get off. I would like to know what does this and how I can clean up my sink.Colin U [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Oxford, UK
Q. Hi Colin, Just wondering if you ever found a solution to removing those titanium marks. I have the same problem. Purchased a titanium watch for my husband a year ago and now both of our sinks have those black marks.
- Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Q. How can I find the answer to removing Titanium scratching on porcelain. It's a brand new white porcelain sink and pot marks have left these same little scratches as described in this other letter. Thanks.Susan D [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Q. I, too am having the problem with my pots and pans leaving grey "scratches" on my new porcelain sink. I have been told that the sink will need to be "re-glazed", which I looked into and is very expensive and done by a professional. If anyone has an easier solution, please tell me!Lisa F [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Seattle, Washington
A. I tried 400 grit sandpaper [linked by editor to product info at Rockler] and it worked very well. It doesn't seem to damage the surface, but you might want to test a small area first.Tina M [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
A. The best way to remove the black scratches and marks from porcelain sinks is with Soft Scrub [linked by editor to product info at Amazon] liquid cleanser. Apply to a damp sponge and buff away all the marks!M. Herman
- Potomac, Maryland
A. Barkeepers Friend [linked by editor to product info at Amazon]does a fantastic job of removing gray metal marks from white porcelain sinks. Also, I use Soft Scrub with bleach [linked by editor to product info at Amazon] to remove other stains and rust marks. Good luck!René B [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Georgetown, Texas
Q. I've been using bleach with chlorine, which definitely takes out the black scratches but it lessens the glaze and you end up having to use it almost daily. I didn't find ANYTHING else that worked!Catherine B [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Duncan, B.C., Canada
A. I've solved the titanium scratches on porcelain problem! And it was so easy!
Get a bit of plumber's rubber - it looks just like a pencil rubber (or eraser if you prefer) - and rub the scratch with it, then clean off with soap and water and buff with a soft cloth. Job done, minimal elbow grease (I found it even easier with a bit of water on the rubber), maximum results!
The rubber should be available from any plumber's merchants, but if not try getting in touch with a company that actually makes (or even fits) porcelain sinks. That's how I got my bit - from a sink manufacturer.
I now have a sink that looks as good as new and have promised my wife that my titanium wedding ring will never go near it again! Good luck all.Greg [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Nottingham, UK
Thanks, Greg, but we can't find a reference to plumber's rubber anywhere on the net, and have never heard of anything like it. Could you be referring to a Pumice Stick [linked by editor to product info at Amazon]?
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Ed. note: it is reported by a reader further down, that a pumice stick scratched a black toilet bowl, so it may not be a good answer for other than white bowls.
A. With regards to Titanium jewelry / watch marks deposited on porcelain surfaces, I can confirm that a Plumbers tool, known as 'China rubber', which resembles a normal stationary rubber works fantastic- I removed a 10-15 cm mark within five minutes using a bit of elbow grease. I found that it worked best without using any water. I could find no trace of of any damage left by the cleaning process. This can be sourced at any plumbing merchants, but it is not cheap- £18 for a small piece, but a worthy purchase in case of further marks! (Got mine from local Plumb Centre branch)Jim O [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Desborough, Northamptonshire, England
January 28, 2008
A. I too have used a "plumbers Rubber" except in the UK it is known as China/Bath Rubber. It is available from any reputable plumbers merchant..
It worked like magic, just like using an eraser on a pencil drawing. I too will never let my Titanium ring near the sink again... Should have looked here before spending several grueling hours with all manner of cleaning products.
- London England
March 22, 2008
Thanks for all your help with this. I have been trying to find a product that removes my husband's titanium wedding marks from our ceramic sink also. I've found that the 'china rubber' is also known as Cramer Bath Rubber =>
- Manchester, England
|Cramer Bath Rubbers on Ebay.uk|
A. I found what I think the Brits are talking about: at diybathrepair.com/html/stain_eraser.html
I have phoned the US contact and am awaiting a return call on where these can be purchased in the US. I will post it up here for the non-Brits on the site.
- Oak Ridge, North Carolina
June 3, 2008
Q. I haven't had much luck with the Rubber idea... I've only tried Trojan, though -- should I switch to Durex or Lifestyles?Bob Party
- Portland, Oregon
June 3, 2008
That plumber's tool is stiff, and the satisfaction it brings is legendary. Maybe your rubbery tool is too limp to get the job done? :-)
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
November 29, 2008
A. Bought a Seiko titanium watch earlier this year,pleased with the watch apart from the grey scratches it leaves on the sink. Bought a porcelain rubber from a local branch of a nationwide plumbers merchants which did the trick very easily. Cost between £12-£15 as I priced them at three different suppliers. Tried the net but had no luckMichael Perkins
- Portsmouth, England
July 30, 2010
Having just moved in to a brand new house 4 weeks ago I was dismayed at the small black marks appearing on the sinks ~ usually after I'd cleaned them. Having read the comments on this site I am now shocked to realise it is my wedding ring causing the damage. I chose titanium as an alternative to any other metal as it is stronger and less reactive. I have now resorted to an alternative and have lots more cleaning in front of me. Thank you for all your advice: I'm now off to purchase a china/bath/plumbers/crammer rubber!Rachel Richards
- Bedfordshire, England
A. 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper works wonders (wet the paper and use some elbow grease); I also tried automotive rubbing compound, messier but also good.Tony V [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Sibey, B.C., Canada
A. Regarding metal scratches on porcelain, I have successfully used Turtlewax polishing compound (used to rub out minor scratches in car paint).Tally R [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
A. I had a blocked toilet and used a snake to fix it - this worked a treat, but left REALLY bad dark grey scratches on the porcelain.
I drained the toilet completely (scooping out the water with the lid of a deodorant spray and mopping up the rest with toilet tissue :)
Once dry, I used T-Cut "Original colour restorer" available from car cleaning product stores and one of those nylon pot and pan scouring pads. Scrubbed away for 10 mins and now it's as good as new!
Use a toilet auger rather than a regular snake next time, Steve, and avoid the damage. I know, I know, we Americans don't know what a bath rubber is and you British/Scottish don't know what we mean by Toilet Auger [linked by editor to product info at Amazon] :-)
. . . but it's a snake with a protective rubber sheath so you don't ruin the bowl.
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
April 20, 2010
A. Have tried all sorts of cleaners to get rid of marks caused by my husband's titanium ring on the bathroom sinks, but no luck! Read a post mentioning T-Cut and it worked magnificently, thanks!Linda Kay
- Durham, England
A. My husband and I discovered today that Cerama Bryte (glass cook top cleaner) =>
Homemaker - Middletown, Rhode Island
OH MY GOSH! That stove top cleaner for glass stoves really works! I used the Sear's brand because that is what I had, along with the little soft scrub sponge used for the glass stoves - not much elbow grease - and the scratches are GONE! THANK_YOU!Linda S [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Hemet, California
Whoever first recommended the glass stovetop cleaner as a solution- IT WORKS! I have tried so many things and read this over the weekend- took less than 5 min and a little elbow grease to get them out- used a scotch brite no scratch sponge (has a course dark blue side you can scrub with), in addition to the stovetop cleaner- This works! Thank you for the idea...Brian Thomas
December 30, 2008
A. Like someone mentioned above, I made a mess of a clogged toilet by using a toilet auger & drain snake to open the clogged toilet. The marks it left appeared to be permanent; I tried removing them with
toilet bowl cleaner [linked by editor to product info at Amazon], a cleaner wax and even tried WD-40 [linked by editor to product info at Amazon]. None of them helped at all.
While at Home Depot I found the product Cerama Bryte. I also priced new toilets while there because I was certain the marks I created could not be removed.
With very little effort the marks were completely removed and the toilet looks as new. I recommend Cerama Bryte =>
- Panama City, Florida
January 3, 2009
I also had horrible scratches on my bowl from a metal auger; I used the cooktop cleaner as well and I couldn't believe my eyes. It was incredible. Before that I thought I'd have to either live with it or buy a new toilet! Thanks for this website and blog -- much appreciated.Sherry Ridenour
- Saint Louis, Missouri
January 16, 2011
I just read about the ceramic cooktop cleaner and tried it. Effortlessly cleaned the stains that have been there at least since we bought the house 18 months ago. Thanks so much. It is people helping people that really gets things done!Justin Allen
- Fife, Washington, USA
A. I've used the cleaner sold for Pfaltzgraff dishes (www.pfaltzgraff.com) --just enter "cleaner" in the search box--I bought it at a department store) or the cleaner for Corningware dishes (also bought at a department store). Both worked beautifully for removing the black/gray scratches left by pots and pans.Rebecca Bilek
- Saint John, Indiana
February 11, 2008
Q. I am looking for something to bring back the shine on my porcelain sink?Debbie Bard
buyer - Palm Harbor, Florida
November 3, 2010
Like a former poster, Debbie B. of Florida, I too, am looking for something to bring back the shine on my porcelain sink? Does this require a professional or can the homeowner successfully do this? What product to use?
- Milwaukee, Oregon, USA
February 17, 2008
A. Whew! My current solution is:
Gel-Gloss [linked by editor to product info at Amazon]. This product is in a spray can. It is a cleaner with a polisher. I purchased it for our acrylic faux marble sink vanity. I gave it a try on those tough to remove metal pot marks in a white porcelain sink. Nothing else seemed to work, including cook top cleaner and old fashion cleanser with bleach. I even tried the Mr. Clean eraser to no avail. It took several tries, but the marks are lightening and almost gone. The can information states that you can use this on fiberglass, marble, acrylic, ceramic, chrome, stainless steel, porcelain and plastic laminate surfaces.
It's gotta be better than sandpaper.....
- Ormond Beach, Florida
May 18, 2008
A. I found it! Jewelers, Eagle One High Speed Green Rouge cleans and polishes metal and it removed the black metal scratches from my white dishes. I immediately followed up with Soft Scrub to remove the residue and put the dishes through a complete cycle in the dishwasher.. I have been looking for something to clean my dishes for at least 10 years...Sheri Marchese
- Myrtle Beach, South Carolina
October 10, 2008
A. My husband transported our sink in the back of his ute along with some metal posts that scratched it. We tried everything to get rid of them and after looking at this site I called a few plumbers but none of them had heard of plumbers rubber BUT one company's storemen recommended a product called Chemico. Its a pink paste and you can buy it for a few dollars in the supermarkets here in New Zealand. It completely erased all marks! I can't stop going in to stare at it :DNicole B [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Richmond, Nelson, New Zealand
"in the back end of his ute"?
My cousin Vinny tells me that proper English is "near the end of his ute".
I only keep going in to stare at my toilet bowl after a night of heavy drinking, Nicole :-)
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
January 2, 2009
My husband found that Wright's Silver Cream [linked by editor to product info at Amazon] took the pot marks off my sink.Lois Kafferlin
- Meadville, Pennsylvania
February 19, 2009
Wright's Silver Cream [linked by editor to product info at Amazon]worked like a dream. Thanks so much!Cindy Russell
flooring - Baker, Louisiana
March 29, 2009
Barkeepers Friend [linked by editor to product info at Amazon] is the best for the scratches in your sinks.
- Virginia Beach, Virginia
July 9, 2010
I had the same problem. Found this thread and went and bought Bar Keeper's Friend from Lakeland for £1.99
It worked like a treat after about 2 minutes of rubbing.
- Bath, UK
April 24, 2009
I had pots/pans scratches in my wife's Jacuzzi porcelain sink. Boy was she mad! Used Softscrub with bleach with no luck. Then I remembered I had some Kit Scratch Out [linked by editor to product info at Amazon] in the garage for my cars. Worked like a miracle in the sink. Saved my life!Rick Namm
- Albuquerque, New Mexico
July 5, 2009
I have bought a "Pumice Stone"(who does not specified it will scratch toilet bowl) to remove Calcium,Lime and black water ring deposit into some off my boss bathroom toilet bowls in the house..The 2 white bowls came out clean after some soft rubbing and "elbow oil" then I did the same thing to our Black toilet bowl..Was fine when wet, but once it dry out it show so white scratch all over the bowl..Does anyone know how to get rid of these scratches, as I'm about to loose my job or buy a new $1500 toilet bowl.Frenchy Aspen
employee - Aspen, Colorado
July 8, 2009
Hi, Frenchy. Many people suggested Barkeepers Friend [linked by editor to product info at Amazon]; that's probably your best bet.
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
August 25, 2009
I have tried everything to get the marks left behind in my porcelain sink and nothing worked. I finally tried some of my husband's Gojo. It worked great! All of the marks are gone.Misty Stevens
- Pryor, Oklahoma
September 21, 2009
A nasty dark scratch appeared on my less than 12 month old bathroom sink over the weekend. Funnily enough, my boyfriend was staying over and he was wearing a titanium ring (hmmmm....could this be the culprit of the aforementioned scratch?) I think it could well be after reading the previous posts.
I just had a scout around in the ol cleaning cupboard and tried Hob Brite - it worked a treat, so there's another one to add to the list :)
- Seend, Wiltshire, England
October 11, 2009
I also had those nasty black marks on my porcelain sink. went to the dollar store and purchased those rubber mat liners that you put underneath, so that you won't slide. cut off a piece and rub it on the marks....COMES RIGHT OFF IN SECONDS. :))))).
October 26, 2009
I noticed a dark scratch mark on my new porcelain sink. I don't know where it came from - yes, I do have a titanium watch, but I don't usually wear it when washing! Anyway, I tried 1200 grit wet/dry paper; came off in about 30 seconds with quite gentle rubbing.John Connett
- Exeter, Devon, UK
November 12, 2009
I had the same snake/toilet marks as other posts. After reading this I tried scrubbing, bleach, Oxi clean, pumice, a cream multi metal cleaner, and Easy Off glass cooktop cleaner. Nothing worked.
Then I tried the Mr Clean
Magic Eraser =>
- Boise, Idaho
Mr. Clean Magic Eraser
Wright's Silver Cream
December 6, 2009
We had this problem with my son's razor. After seeing the other replies I thought I need a paste that has abrasive particles in it. Answer toothpaste. A sheet of loo paper and a small blob of toothpaste was all it took. 2 minutes later it was perfect again.Graham Tebbutt
- Sutton England
April 22, 2010
I was washing up some metal equipment for my D of E expedition and I ended up getting metal 'scratches' all over the basin of the sink.
Anyway, my mum went mental.
So I came on here... Toothpaste and kitchen roll you say?
Got every mark out within 5 minutes with some of the frequently aforementioned 'elbow grease'
May 31, 2010
I scratched a new bathroom sink removing the label with a knife, foolish in hindsight.
Toothpaste and kitchen roll, fixed it in 2 minutes, magic :)
June 7, 2010
I scratched our bathroom sink earlier today and was really angry with myself as it always seems like when you are trying to fix one thing something else goes wrong! Well, I got mad and swore and felt terrible. Then I decided to do a search on the trusty internet where I found this forum on scratched sinks. Thank you to all for your suggestions. I read until I found a suggestion that included materials I had at home. Toothpaste and toilet paper, yes indeed, we have these! And it worked like a charm. Wouldn't have believed it but it is true! Only took a minute and the sink is as good as new. Definitely the easiest of solutions!Christine Taylor
- White Rock, BC, Canada
June 16, 2010
My wash basin had a lot of scratches from my husband's titanium watch strap. After trying all kinds of cleaning products without success, I found this invaluable thread of helpful information and tried the toothpaste (on kitchen towel) suggestion somewhere above and with about 10 minutes of elbow grease all scratches disappeared. Fantastic!
Now, a month later, more scratches are appearing from the same watch strap in the same place but this time the toothpaste will not shift even the lighter of the marks.
(Unfortunately, hubby consistently fails to remember to remove his watch, even with a reminder desperately stuck above the sink...)
Is it possible that the toothpaste originally took off the scratches AND the top surface of the china? The edge of the basin looked great after that first successful cleanup, but thats the only thing I can think of which would result in the same agent not removing further damage.
Will now try various other suggestions in this thread, probably starting with the Cramer Bath Rubber which I've just ordered and if that doesn't do it I'll get Cerama Bryte ceramic cooktop cleaner from eBay uk and have a go at that and will eventually come back with the results in case anyone else has a problem with further scratch removal.
- Bristol, UK
August 5, 2010
I have finished those by using of the toothpaste, just put it to the damaged surface and then rub as much as you can, I have remove 4 stains in few minutes but I have a blister on a thumb now... Anyway, cheapest and probably fastest solution...igor dugonjic
- Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina
March 10, 2011
Well I'll be. Toothpaste and TP. Smells nice, too. Too enthusiastic with the toilet auger today, even they can mar porcelain. A poignant vote for my late grandmother's Pepsodent tooth powder. The tin.Ann Landrey
- Toronto, Ontario, Canada
April 9, 2011
Toothpaste gets marks off plates. I use it often and its cheap too, put some toothpaste on the plate and clean it with a paper towel or a cloth. Works on other items too.Lillian Harris
- Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada.
April 3, 2010
I was wondering how to get marks out from a ring or watch etc and I was thinking T-cut would do it, Nope.. But because I was a valeter I did not give up so I tried another polish....
G3 (yellow pot and blue background)
Worked perfectly and all are completely gone! Work it in and it will go, even using one finger and no cloth.
- Andover, UK
August 18, 2010
This solution may or may not work with titanium, but it is magic for those who have marked up their toilet bowl with an auger. Get Jobmaster Bathroom and Bowl cleaner (usually from Costco) or any strong bathroom cleaner with phosphoric acid. The Jobmaster stuff is pink with a slight cherry syrup smell. Flush the toilet twice (to make sure you have no other chemicals in there), then pour about one to two cups of the Jobmaster in the bowl. Come back in a couple of hours and the bowl will be spotless, no scrubbing needed! I never thought it would work so well. It removed every scratch, even in the area where you wouldn't be able to scrub unless you had very tiny hands. I figure that the scratch marks is iron oxide from the auger. Most acids should be able to dissolve iron oxide, but phosphoric acid is especially good at it (remember Naval Jelly?)John Smith
- San Diego, California
September 15, 2010
We too have a bore water supply to the toilet that leaves a mineral deposit in the bowl - the only effective way I have found to remove it is using a coarse sand mix and a damp cloth - form a pad with the cloth, dip it in the sand and use as a scourer on the pan - a bit physical, but it works and no chemicals involved.Clive W Bulmer
- Adelaide South Australia
November 11, 2010
i just moved into a new home and found grey marks in my porcelain sink.
probably from oven racks.
i looked here and followed advice for the glass stove top cleaner .
i popped it into the search engine and low and behold there is a homemade version.
i did think initially "yeah this won't work" but to my surprise it did.
i just gently poured the vinegar onto stain, sprinkled some baking soda on and drizzled a bit more vinegar on for good measure. left it to bubble for 15 mins and then scrubbed it.
it works almost 100%, I'd say about 96%, but not bad for things already in the kitchen
- plumpton green,sussex,uk
|January 14, 2011
I scratched my sink so bad with my titanium ring I thought it was cracked. You could actually feel the scratch with a fingernail. I got out my Dremel, mounted a hardened cotton bullet tip to it..set it to the lowest speed. I used Meguiar's Fine Cut [linked by editor to product info at Amazon] polishing compound ... I had a 2" long black cut in the sink--it actually took less than a minute to completely remove it. If you have a dremel--then this is the way to go.doug baehr
- Elma, New York USA
January 30, 2011
After reading most of the advice to remove metal scratch marks from ceramic, I tried a ceramic hob cream "Hob Bright" with a soft sponge and plenty of elbow grease and all 8 marks are completely gone and sink is like new once more.....Thanks for the adviceChristopher Courtney
- Dublin Ireland
October 19, 2011
Toothpaste and elbow grease worked great!! The black marks are mostly gone and sink looks very clean, however there are teeny tiny scratches in the finish ... any idea how to refinish those?Liz Anderrson
- Falls Church, Virginia, USA
November 19, 2011
I have tried many of the mentioned "cures" but never really got my sink mark free. I looked for the Cramer Plumbers Rubber, but unless I ordered online, it's not available locally. I have a pumice stone and was afraid to us it on my enamel sink so... as I was making a shopping list I noticed my pumice stone for pedicures. It is a lot smoother and finer than any other. In about 2 minutes I had 8 years of marks gone! I am spreading the word, it worked wonderfully! The easiest and cheapest "cure" yet!Brandi Johnson
- Clovis, New Mexico, USA
February 6, 2012
After reading all responses, I thought I would try using my MAAS Fine Polishing Creme for all metals first before trying the cerama bryte or weiman stove/cook top cleaners or the Plumbers (cramer bath) rubber. The rubbers were harder to get here (no pun intended).
Well on the back of the MAAS polishing creme it says it restores glass, plexiglass, fiberglass, enamel.....removes rust and oxidation. that was very similar to the products mentioned.
Sure enough with a sponge, a few minutes and "elbow grease" it worked like a dream! Thank You for steering me in the right direction!
The maas polishing creme is also easier to find in the US than the cramer's bath rubber. Although I wonder if the "all-purpose polishing buffing compound bars" on ebay are the same thing, or would accomplish the same/similar thing?
- Rochester, New York, United States
February 9, 2012
My titanium ring also made black marks on my brand-new white porcelain sinks as I was installing them! I didn't realize how it happened at first, but tested it out and made another black mark which confirmed it (that was dumb of me). The magic eraser did not work for me, nor did regular soft scrub (I didn't have the kind with bleach), but your suggestions got me thinking. A quick browse in the garage turned up a bottle of Mothers chrome polish, which did the trick. It only took a minute or two of rubbing with a paper towel and each mark went away. When I was done, I polished my ring up a bit :)Adam Giuliano
- Richmond, Rhode Island, USA
February 21, 2012
I also had a blocked toilet and used a snake - and it left bad dark grey scratches on the porcelain. I paid $1.85 for
Barkeeper's Friend. With little effort the marks disappeared.
I thought I was going to have to replace the toilet. Thanks for the suggestions!
- Charlotte, North Carolina
March 24, 2012
Cramer Bath Rubbers are available on Ebay =>Sid Conway
- Birmingham, West Midlands, UK
|Cramer Bath Rubbers on Ebay.uk|
April 21, 2012
I am a plumber, and this sort of thing happens all the time, I always carry a tube of cutting compound on my van, you can get it from any motor body or parts shop. Works a treat and doesn't damage the surface.Simon davies
Ad plumbing, gas & electrical - Manchester, England
June 2, 2012
Q. My sink has tiny scratches on it and some of them rust. I tried the Barkeeper's Friend and it took away the rust, but it left the surface rough. I guess it took off the finish. I don't know if I didn't get it wet enough before scrubbing or what. Is there any way to make the finish smooth again?Sharron Mize
- Tupelo, Mississippi, USA
A. Hi Sharron.
This thread has gotten long and ragged, so it's not clear whether you are still talking about a porcelain enamel sink or what :-)
I'm surprised that Barkeeper's Friend, even not wet enough, is gritty enough to seriously roughen a porcelain enamel surface, but a buffing pad on a cordless drill, with a wet and very mild abrasive, should be able to polish it. Acrylic and fiberglass sinks, if that's what you have, look nice but the finish is actually soft and not very durable ... on the other hand, I don't see how they could have rusted. On the fourth hand, maybe you're talking about a stainless steel sink?
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
September 20, 2014
In response to Jennifer C's post
The ceramic stove top cleaner worked like a charm to remove metal stains from my sink. I had several that had been there for a few years, It took some elbow grease but they all came off. Thanks for the post.
- Jacksonville, Florida USA