Summary for van der horst bath Discussion
Van der horst bath information is not publicly available, according to the thread. Karl von Baderschneider asked for the bath composition and operating parameters for depositing iron, but Bill Hemp noted that the Van der Horst bath is a proprietary trade secret formulation of Van Der Horst USA and that published details are not available except from the company. Mike Simon later reported buying the referenced article and finding that it only praises the bath and repeats that its formulation is proprietary. The follow-up reply agreed, saying the article is misleadingly promotional, though it does cover iron plating in general and includes formulations for seven other iron plating baths. The discussion also points readers to the Metal Finishing Guidebook Directory, where the bath is listed, but not disclosed.
We are looking for information on a “Van Der Horst” bath for depositing Iron (bath composition, operating parameters, etc.)
Karl von Baderschneider
– Belding, Michigan, USA
2001
Ed. note Sept. 2022 — Warning: the Van Der Horst bath is the proprietary trade secret formulation of Van Der Horst USA. You are not going to find published information about it other than from them.
A. Karl,
Page 266 of the Metal Finishing Guidebook Directory year 2000 edition. Specific on the Van der Horst bath, page 268.
Bill Hemp
tech svc. w/ chemical supplier – Grand Rapids, Michigan
2001
Q. I am looking for this very same information. Amazon, and eBay don’t have that issue, and neither does the Cleveland Public Library.
I was able to also find the article online (while over priced, it can be purchased with a credit card) at www.sciencedirect.com
They want 31.50 for it, which is high, other sites may have it cheaper.
Mike Simon
– Parma oh U.S.A.
August 10, 2008
A. Actually disregard the above — I purchased the article, and all it says is how great the bath is, and that all of its information is proprietary.
I have the 2005 edition, and it says exactly the same thing, even word for word.
Mike Simon
– Parma oh U.S.A.
August 10, 2008
August 11, 2008
Hi, Mike. Sorry that you got tagged for that download because Van Der Horst USA’s plating bath is their proprietary trade secret formulation and they are not going to tell anyone how to make it :-)
I, too, object to the way the Van Der Horst bath is glorified in that article; that sort of treatment belongs in a sales brochure, not in a text book, let alone in science literature you were charged over $30 for :-(
But that article is about iron plating in general and it does give formulations for seven other iron plating baths. That article appears to be in all issues of the Metal Finishing Guidebook from at least 1997 through at least 2007 except 2004 from which it was omitted.
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