Summary for black fasteners on japanese motorcycles Discussion
Black fasteners on Japanese motorcycles are discussed as likely being more than one finish, since older parts can start semi-gloss black and later turn olive-green while newer ones stay glossier and more stable. Barry asks about the black surface finish used on steel fasteners, brackets, and similar hardware on late-1970s to current Japanese motorcycles, especially for refinishing an old Yamaha DT and Honda CBX. The reply from Ted Mooney says that unless someone knows those exact motorcycles, any identification is partly a guess, but zinc or zinc-alloy plating with black chromates is very common. He suggests the older fasteners were probably zinc plated with a black silver-bearing chromate that discolors over time, while newer ones may be zinc-iron alloy plated with a black chromate that does not use silver and therefore does not discolor as much.
Q. What is the black surface finish used on steel fasteners, brackets, and such on Japanese motorcycles from the late ’70s to current?
Perhaps I am looking for more than one finish, as some of the older fasteners started off rather semi-gloss black, but turn an olive-greenish color over time, while new ones seem to be closer to a glossy black, and don’t have any tendencies to look greenish.
I’m looking to refinish many of these on an old Yamaha DT and Honda CBX.
Thanks
Barry
Barry Adam
– Mission Viejo, California, USA
August 12, 2012
A. Hi Barry.
Unless an experienced metal finisher is familiar with those exact motorcycles, you’ll probably only get guesses. But zinc or zinc alloy plating of fasteners is very common, and black chromates are fairly popular. So my guess is that the earlier fasteners were zinc plated with a black silver-bearing chromate that discolors over time, and that the newer fasteners are zinc-iron alloy plated with a black chromate that doesn’t use silver so it doesn’t discolor. Good luck with the refinishing.
Regards,

Ted Mooney, P.E.
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August 12, 2012