Summary for turco 5580-g masking product Discussion
turco 5580-g masking product requests in this thread center on buyers trying to avoid the 5-drum minimum for Turco 5580 / BONDERITE S-MA 5580 G. George Heine posted in 2018 and again in 2020 that his company needed only one or two 55-gallon drums and asked whether anyone could sell a single drum or buy the balance. Ted Mooney, P.E. noted that the RFQ was outdated and criticized the trade practice of forcing large minimum purchases of solvent-based chemicals, saying no agency or environmental group had challenged it and that specs should be amended to “or equal.” In 2023, Jim Baldwin of Mask Coat LLC replied with a commercial alternative, saying to contact MASKCOAT for superior maskants and offering help. The thread does not provide a direct source for Turco 5580-G itself, but it does show the recurring problem of minimum-order quantities and one suggested alternative supplier.
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RFQ: Hello –
Do you still have extra bonderite/truco 5580 available? My company is looking to purchase some. Looking to purchase a small quantity, no more than 1 drum.
Piper Colavolpe
Branford, Connecticut
January 12, 2023
Ed. note: This RFQ is outdated, but technical replies are welcome, and readers are encouraged to post their own RFQs. But no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?).
A. adv.
Maskcoat can help with all of your maskants needs.
Jim Baldwin
Mask Coat LLC
West Monroe, Louisiana
February 6, 2023
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RFQ: HENKEL WILL ONLY SELL THIS PRODUCT IN BATCHES OF 240 GALLONS… IN OUR MASKING DEPARTMENT WE USE 15 GALLONS A YEAR.
HOPING THAT OUT THERE IS SOMEONE FORCED TO TAKE A BATCH AND HAS EXTRA. ALL HENKEL DISTRIBUTORS SAY THEY ARE FORCED TO SELL IT IN THIS AMOUNT ALSO. WHAT MADNESS!
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN HELP! T. BELL, PURCHASING SUPERVISOR
TERESA BELL
PLATING CO BUYER – BELL GARDENS, California, USA
2007
Ed. note: This RFQ is outdated, but technical replies are welcome, and readers are encouraged to post their own RFQs. But no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?).
A. Hi Teresa. It makes some sense that Henkel may only be able to manufacture batches of 240 gallons or larger at a time — but a traditional role of plating distributorships has always been to split shipments so that end users can deal with reasonable quantities. The idea that Henkel prohibits their distributors from fulfilling this essential role doesn’t sound believable to me. I suspect that the use of this particular maskant is declining and the actual case is that your distributors don’t want to be stuck with the balance :-(
If your distributors, whether coerced or not, won’t deliver product in quantities that are not an assault on the concept of waste minimization and sustainability, please know that there are smaller companies who will be only too glad to meet your requirements for masking supplies — it’s just a matter of all of us demanding that “or equal” be written into the specs 🙂
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
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attn: We are going to be purchasing the 5 Drum min, please let me know if you would like to buy back 1 drum.
Mena Rizk
– Huntington Beach, California, USA
July 8, 2014
Ed. note: This RFQ is outdated, but technical replies are welcome, and readers are encouraged to post their own RFQs. But no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?).
Hi Mena. Teresa’s posting was from years ago, but new readers currently needing this product will hopefully find your posting. It’s the general policy of this site to deal only in technical issues, and not post commercial offers, but the ecologically insulting waste that this thread talks about forces us to make an exception and try to do what little we can to alleviate it.
— It was either that or drop a dime to the environmental organizations about it 🙂 Where is PIRG when they’re actually needed? 🙂
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
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RFQ: My company is in need of one 55 gallon drum of the Turco-5580. Should anyone be in a position to sell one drum or be willing to purchase drums should my company be forced to purchase the 5 drum minimum please respond.
George Heine
– Orangeburg, New York USA
September 27, 2018
Ed. note: This RFQ is outdated, but technical replies are welcome, and readers are encouraged to post their own RFQs. But no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?).
RFQ: My company is in the process of purchasing the five 55 gallon drum minimum of Turco 5580 (also known as BONDERITE S-MA 5580 G). We will only need two drums so if anyone is interested in purchasing the balance or just one drum please reply.
Also, if anyone has any drums for sale we would also be interested in purchasing one or two barrels rather than purchasing the minimum 5 drum limit.
George Heine
– Orangeburg, New York
October 21, 2020
Ed. note: This RFQ is outdated, but technical replies are welcome, and readers are encouraged to post their own RFQs. But no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?).
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13 years later and no government agency has challenged this abominable trade practice of forbidding distributors from selling reasonable quantities; and no environmental group has demonstrated any concern over forcing people to buy pallet loads of solvent-based chemicals when they will waste all but a tiny fraction of it; and apparently few specs have been amended to “or equal”.
A. Please contact MASKCOAT for superior maskants. We will be happy to help you.
Jim Baldwin
Mask Coat LLC
West Monroe, Louisiana
October 23, 2023
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