Summary for gun blue 1702 Discussion
Gun blue 1702 is the focus of this thread, with the original question asking whether an alternate product exists that still meets AMS2484 and is available in larger quantities in Europe. James Watts advised checking the appropriate OEM SPOP to see what alternate chemical sources are allowed, noting that major engine overhaul specifications often permit more than one chemical choice. Dan Beilin later pointed to an international-order source for Hoppe’s Gun Blue 1702, including pint sizes, though an editor’s note says that link later broke and Hoppe’s bluing could no longer be found. In a related follow-up, Tracy Grabman said she could not get anyone to certify a product to AMS2484B and needed vendor certification with each shipment. Ted Mooney later reported that Hoppe’s gun blue appeared to be discontinued, with only small bottles still showing up in limited kits, so availability and certification remained uncertain.
2005
Hello
In order to perform a repair on a jet-engine part we need to carry out a surface treatment.The surface treatment has to be carried out with Gun Blue 1702 which meets the requirement of the aviation specification AMS2484. In accordance to the engine maintenance manual it is the only product we can use at least it is the only product listed. Does anyone know if an alternate product exist which also meets spec. AMS2484? It seems that Gun Blue is only available in the U.S and only in a 2 Oz. bottle. I would like to use an alternate which is procurable in a, e.g. 1 quart canister and also available within Europe.
Your help in the above is very appreciated.
Sincerely yours,
Erich Stauber
airlines – Switzerland
Years ago, Swissair was probably the most demanding airline in conformance to specifications and workmanship. They did, however let us work by GE or PWA or RR overhaul specifications on their respective engines and all of those had more than one choice of chemical for virtually every chemical process. Check out the appropriate OEM SPOP and see what they allow as sources.
James Watts
– Navarre, Florida
2005
2006
Hi.
Gun Blue 1702 is available here for international orders, also in pint:
www.gunaccessories.com/hoppes/bluingfinishing.asp
Dan Beilin
– Ontario, Canada
Ed. note, June 2015: that link is broken and while there are still many Hoppe’s products, we haven’t been able to find Hoppe’s bluing for years
I cannot get anyone to certify that any product meets AMS2484. I need to have a certification I/A/W AMS2484B per section 4.5 Reports: ” “The Vendor of the blackening solution shall furnish with each shipment a report showing the results of test to determine conformance to the technical requirements. This report shall include the purchase order number, AMS2484B, manufacturer’s identification, batch number, and quantity.” Can anyone help?
Thank you
Tracy Grabman
– Troy, Michigan
2006
Q. Does anybody know if arts belgian blue is the same as Hoppes 9 bluing? Please let me know. Or does anyone know if you can still buy Hoppes 1716 in Norway?
M.Noss
hobbyist – Elk Grove, California
2007
Q. Has anyone found a replacement for Hoppes gun blue or a supplier for AMS2484 coating? We are having the same issue finding
AMS2484 (gun blue) that is called out in the technical data/work instructions.
Would appreciate any feedback .
Chris Rauch
– greer, South Carolina
Q. Has anyone found a replacement for Hoppes #9 Gun Blue? Did the manufacturer discontinue this particular product? Please inform me of a replacement product if there is one?
M. Anderson
hobbyist – San Antonio, Texas
A. I no longer see any mention of gun blue on the Hoppe’s website. Also, a couple of on-line dealers say “discontinued by manufacturer” and the rest say “temporarily unavailable”. So I would say that, yes, it has been discontinued. Why Hoppe’s would not say so, though, electing to pretend it never existed, I can’t reconcile; so it must remain a bit of a mystery :-)
Strangely, it seems to still be available, for unknown duration, in very small bottles as part of a gun bluing maintenance kit on Amazon.
Ted Mooney, P.E.
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Q. Does anyone know where I might be able to find Hoppes #9 gun bluing in larger amounts other that just the 2 oz bottles? I have 14 gun’s to do and I have all the other items to do it I just need the bluing. Anyone point me in the right direction I’ll very well thank you for it. Aloha, Ave
Ave Cacabelos
hobbyist – Lihue, Hawaii
January 28, 2008
A. Please contact Hoppes and let us know what they say, Ave. We’ve already noted that webpages from many distributors say “discontinued” and that the Hoppes website no longer mentions the product. Good luck.
Ted Mooney, P.E.
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