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Blackening stainless steel: black oxide chemical dipping, PVD, electroplating?


(1996)

Q. Could you please direct me to books or review articles where I could get some information on protective/decorative coating on stainless steel. Further, is this coating good enough to prevent corrosion in salt water? Is it very expensive? Thanks!

Mukesh Bheda



A. Dear Mukesh,  

My company is a manufacturer's agent that specializes in finishes for stainless steel (type 304/316). We provide Titanium sputtered (vacuum deposition) of titanium oxide onto stainless steel. Colors available are: Gold, Black, Bronze & Blue. Titanium oxide plated sheets are durable, abrasive resistant, will not fade and do not require lacquer coatings replaced every 2-3 years. Because the base material is type 304/316 stainless, the sheets will not corrode or rust, not even near salt water environment (where, by the way, we recommend Type 316).

Michael Liu Taylor
Michael Liu Taylor
   specialty stainless steel distributor
Dallas, Texas



November 13, 2008

A. Hi, Mukesh. In addition to sputtering with titanium, stainless steel can also be electroplated with black materials like black chromium; it can be black oxided, although this may not offer enough corrosion resistance; it can be anodized into black and other colors. And, of course, it can be painted or powder coated.

Salt water is very corrosive and I think it would need to be a minimum of grade 316. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com Teds signature
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Pine Beach, New Jersey



Black oxide on stainless steel is inconsistent

(2005)

Q. I am getting poor results from black oxide on 303 stainless. The colors are not uniform. Is this a process problem or would a different stainless steel be better suited for this process?

Pat kane
end user - apopka, Florida


(2005)

Q. I am looking for a good method to do blacking on 316 SS. Does anyone have a good method?

Greg Bolduc
- Muskegon, Michigan, USA


January 15, 2008

A. Black Oxide coatings on stainless steel are common. Type 303 has a high sulfur content that seems to interfere with the black iron oxide (Fe3O4) formation, but the rest of the 300 series can be coated to MIL-DTL-13924 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency / dla.mil] , Class 4. (I like 316 or 316L over the 304 alloy.) Remember that black oxide coating is not prescribed for corrosion protection. If you're not going to paint it, use a water displacing preservative coating such as MIL-PRF-16173 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency / dla.mil] , grade 3 or 4. The process details are found in MIL-HDBK-205A.

Get the military specs - they are free (you've already paid for them in taxes :). Google "Assist Quicksearch" and put in the numeric part of the spec in the "Document Number" box.

Allan Lang
Materials Engineer - Pensacola, Florida, USA


January 26, 2008

A. As an alternative to trying to formulate your own black oxide process for stainless steel, proprietary processes are available from companies like Heatbath and others.

opinion! Allan is right; our government does indeed tax American finishing shops and spend that money making those specs available for free to their offshore competitors, assuring that multinationals are rewarded for off-shoring, and that foreign companies get a free leg up on American small business. That's probably not actually their intention though; their intention is probably only to return a hundredfold the campaign contributions made by beltway bandits :-)

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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FDA acceptable blackening of stainless

(1998)

Q. I'm having difficulty trying to get a black finish on 400 series stainless steel. This is for an FDA acceptable device for body contact. I've tried sulfuric / sodium dichromate to no avail. Any advice would be truly appreciated.

Jim Transue
stamping company - Somerset, New Jersey


(1997)

A. Have your tried titanium nitride colored stainless? Physical vapor deposited onto type 300 or 400 series?

Any MSDS data from your examinations/evaluations would be appreciated.

Regards,

Michael Liu Taylor
Michael Liu Taylor
   specialty stainless steel distributor
Dallas, Texas


(1997)

A. Hi Jim,

I had experience with a black finish on stainless steels. I believe that sulfuric acid/dichromate solutions can help you achieve the goal if you use proper ratio of sulfuric acid to dichromate, high concentration and high temperature, and enough immersion time. But be very careful, this operation is quite dangerous.

Ling Hao
- Grand Rapids, Michigan


(1997)

A. We frequently put what we call "black stain marks" on type 300 & 400 stainless steels by local spot annealing with laser. The result is an indelible jet black mark (it looks just like 100% black ink) 0.001" - 0.002" into the metal without any visible erosion of the surface (visible under 30X magnification). I recognize that rastering a surface with a 0.004" dia. spot isn't an economical process for areas of any size (although Penn State's Advanced Research Center (ARC) has pioneered work with laser cladding of large areas using just such a rastering technique) but it suggests that there may be a non-chemical heating method for obtaining this finish.

Josh Drexler
laser systems mfgr. - Pepperell, Massachusetts



Simple dipping only

(1998)

Q. Sir : Just like to ask what will be the best chemical combination we can use for stainless steel blackening thru dipping.

victor manicad

(1998)

A. There is a product available from Heatbath Corp in Springfield, Massachusetts called PX5 it is a blackening salt designed specifically for stainless steel. Good luck.

Jeff Mills
metal finishing shop - Gorham, Maine


(1998)

Q. Hi,

I am also looking for a method of blackening on stainless steel, but don't want the super aggressive/nasty ones that involve high temperatures or dangerous chemicals.

What success did/have you had with your query?

Regards,

Chris Burgess
- Brisbane Australia


(1998)

A. Hi Chris and Victor,

I'm not familiar with Heathbath's PX 5 product (though I'm sure it's a good one). But I know Hubbard Hall has a room temperature Black that works on most stainless steels.

Good Luck,

Mike Horton
- Brooklyn, New York


(1998)

Hi Mike,

I am interested in the literatures regarding stainless steel blackening. It is greatly appreciated if you would like to let me know where I can find them. Thanks.

Ling Hao
- Grand Rapids, Michigan



Anodizing stainless steel to blacken it

(1998)

Q. I am looking for an economical scratch resistant black coating process to be applied on type 400 series stainless steel. Process should not be overly aggressive and no worse in terms of processing than hot black oxide.

John Lang
- Hartford, Connecticut


(1998)

A. John

We color stainless steel electrochemically and achieve a black color on 400 series stainless. The coating is a very thin chrome oxide (.000005" thick).

adv.
Please feel free to contact me for more information.

Bob Bramson
B&M Finishers / Prismatic Stainless Steel
supporting advertiser
Kenilworth, New Jersey

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Blackening in small / low volume

mfgthumb
Metal Finishing Guidebook

(2001)

Q. I am blackening 304 stainless steel with a formula suggested in the Metal Finishing Guide Book (180 parts Sulfuric, 200 parts water, 50 parts potassium dichromate at 210 °F.) The parts are prepared by bead blasting, alkaline cleaning, and a 50% HCl dip.

My parts, mostly nuts, bolts, and screws, have a red or purple hue that can be removed with fine steel wool [linked by editor to product info at Rockler] but take up to twelve hours to process. Can anyone suggest how I might eliminate the colored hues, reduce process time, and produce a darker black. Proprietary preparations are sold in quantities that are far beyond my needs and resources.

Walt Puryear
- Athens, Georgia


(2004)

A. Maybe this solution can help: 50 grams H2SO4 200 grams sodium thiosulphate 1 liter water, 30 °C temp.

Goran Budija
- Zagreb, Croatia


November 2013

A. Hi Walt. If the volume is too low to interest a local distributor of plating chemicals, it's also possible to buy in small quantities from consumer-oriented companies like Brownells =>

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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Is 'black oxide' the right name?

(2006)

Q. Is the process by which SS is darkened to a black or grey called "black oxide", or is it called other things, such as "acid-washed"? Thank you.

Chris Lawrence
job supervision - Boston, Massachusetts


(2006)

A. Black oxide is just that - chemical conversion of IRON to the black oxide form of rust (as opposed to the all too familiar red form). It has an appealing black color, is fairly well adherent to the basis metal, and adsorbs post treat preservatives such as oil quite well.

This should be compared versus a black etch smut that forms upon immersion of certain stainless steels in various acid media such as hot sulfuric or hot muriatic (hydrochloric). This black smut is non-adherent and non-uniform in appearance. They are obviously not the same!

milt stevenson jr.
Milt Stevenson, Jr.
Anoplate Corporation
supporting advertiser 
Syracuse, New York

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(2006)

A. Black oxide conversion coatings for steel are formed in alkaline solutions containing strong oxidizers (nitrite/nitrate).
The chemical reaction for the formation of magnetite, black oxide, is as follows: The iron for the blackening process is contributed by the base metal. Byproducts of the blackening reaction are colloidal iron and carbonates, which are removed from the bath by de-sludging and skimming.
Black oxide coatings do not change the dimensions of the parts blackened. The coating will not chip or peel and acts as an absorbent to hold oils or waxes.
The black oxide bath is simple to operate. A rolling boil should be maintained at 150 °C with additions of water or blackening salts. Cleaned parts are immersed from 5-20 minutes in the bath and then rinsed thoroughly. Finally, a rust preventive coating is applied.
The black oxide coating itself does not afford much corrosion protection (only 1-2 hours salt spray exposure); although the rust preventive top coat is absorbed by the black oxide and can achieve up to 100 hours of salt spray exposure depending on the product used.

v g rajendran
V. G. Rajendran
- Trichy, Tamilnadu, India



November 8, 2008

Q. CAN WE DO BLACKODISING ON SS431 COMPONENTS.

IF YES,

PLEASE GIVE ME PROCESS.

NARESH PANCHAL
EMPLOYEE - MUMBAI,MAHARASHTRA, India

TERMINOLOGY:

Black Oxiding = Blackodizing
The process usually called 'Black Oxiding' in the USA is often called 'Blackodizing' in India


August 6, 2009

A. Blackening on SS can be done on various methods. But all depends on the usage and its utility and the purpose and the environmental condition. If the answer is submitted, we can suggest many blackening processes.

Chandramanipg
- Bangalore, Karnataka, India



Is Ebonol suitable for stainless steel?

(2005)

Q. My production is running blackening on 302 standard steel parts. Now, I'm facing unplated, bending test fail and erase test fail issues. I'm using Ebonol M-22 as my blackening solution and 50% HCl as my pre-treatment process.

I am going to use pure HCl (without mix with H2O) to doing pre-treat for my standard steel parts as to reduce my NC of finished goods. Any good suggestions on my process?

Well, our production is now facing a lot of quality issues on 302 steel parts. Any good suggest on how to reduce my NC parts? Or any good process to replace my current blackening process?

Kaka Ryuuichi
plating - KL, Malaysia


January 16, 2013 -- this entry appended to this thread by editor in lieu of spawning a duplicative thread

Q. Is it possible to use black Ebonol on 303 stainless?

Abbie Moran
- Littleton, Massachusetts, USA


November 2013

A. Hi. Last I heard Ebonol was for copper and zinc and alloys of the same, such as brass, and nickel. But I think you folks need to contact the manufacturer (Enthone) since Ebonol is a trade name for a proprietary blackening process and there may be a number of different formulations.

But Kaka, don't increase the strength of your HCl -- 50% is already probably too much, and not great for stainless steel. I suspect that the metal is simply dirty. You need to do hot alkaline cleaning until you have a waterbreak-free surface after rinsing before you do the acid dip. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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What causes occasional brown areas?

February 19, 2013

Q. We are blackening stainless steel (302 & 304) parts in barrels.
The process used is double degreasing (water based), rinsing, pickling (hydrochloric acid - 15%), double rinsing, pickling (nitric acid 15%), double rinsing, pre blackening (in eco rinse of blackening) and blackening (caustic soda & sodium nitrate) at 125 °C.
Parts are rinsed in a three stage rinsing and finally immersed in an oil emulsion.
All of this is performed fully automatic with controlled movement and precise temperature controlled process steps.

Nevertheless, we detect from time to time a few batches that contain parts with some areas that are brownish instead of black. This becomes more visible after 24 hours.

Does anybody knows the origin of this problem?

Another question is how to pretreat 4xx series of stainless steel.
The current process is not suitable as parts come out completely blank.

Thanks in advance for any comment

Guy Heylen
- Belgium


February 21, 2013

A. Hi Guy. You say that you have a "precise temperature controlled process", but does that simply mean you turn heaters on and off? Not good enough.

As Rod Henrickson has noted several times on this site, you must notr attempt to modulate the temperature by controlling the heat input; rather you must keep the heaters going to maintain a rolling boil and add water if the temperature is too high and evaporate it if too low, because the solution must always be at a rolling boil or you will get brown parts. You control the temperature by controlling the concentration and thus the boiling temperature, not by modulating the heat input.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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February 23, 2013

Q. We control the temperature of the blackening bath through two independent heaters with a different setpoint. Recent logging shows evidence that the variations remain between +/- 1.5 °C. The parts are pre-heated through a heated ecorinse at +/- 65 °C. We intend to eliminate the remaining 2,8 % of non conformities by dosing water to the blackening bath. Do you know a sensor capable of measuring the boiling point?

Thanks in advance for any help!.

Guy Heylen [returning]
- Kuringen, Belgium


February 25, 2013

A. Hi. Sorry, I don't know of an instrument that can detect the boiling point of a liquid. That is a good question, though -- obviously it would be nice to not madly pour heat into a solution beyond the amount necessary to maintain a rolling boil.

But in the meanwhile, remember to not use those thermostats to modulate the heaters -- instead, the solution must be kept at a rolling boil, and you must add water if that rolling boil temperature is higher than your spec, and stop adding water if that rolling boil temperature is lower than your spec. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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November 28, 2013

Q. Dear all,

This is my first time asking a question on this forum, I hope you all can help me on this.
I have been blackening little pieces of 304 stainless steel sheet #4 finish, by burning with a little propane torch. Some get really black, and some take forever and only reach a grey. I would like to mention that the ones reaching the black color are of a different sheet than the ones reaching the grey color. And I am sure these are both 304, yet not sure if one of these two sheets is a 304L.
Would the low carbon sheet make any difference on the burning procedure?
and what would be the best way to blacken stainless steel?
Thanks very much for your help.

Elias

Elias Mouawad
- Willow Grove, Pennsylvania, USA


December 6, 2013

A. Chemically Blackening Stainless is not easy. It is usually done in an Alkaline salt bath at elevated temperatures (230 °F? if I recall) as well as some cleaning before hand. Heatbath [a finishing.com supporting advertiser] used to sell a line of product for this purpose.

There are room temperature systems out there to blacken steel, but these are for carbon steel, not stainless.

Paul Slater
- Cedar Rapids, Iowa, USA


December 13, 2013

A. Try next download free booklet, there you can find some black finishes for stainless steel :
attachments.wetpaintserv.us/ZLSnLKosv0l3CnE9hGDi7w488720

Hope it helps and good luck!

Goran Budija
- Zagreb, Croatia

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Ed. note Jan 2017: Although wetpaintserv.us was a legitimate site when Goran posted it, it is now --at best-- a link farm. It told me my computer was infected (which it isn't) and that it could fix it. Don't go there!



Need black finish on 303 stainless steel with little to no build up

March 5, 2014 -- this entry appended to this thread by editor in lieu of spawning a duplicative thread

Q. I have 303 stainless steel parts that fit in a tight area and I need to blacken these parts they have a 2-56 threaded hole and a thru hole that neither can get clogged up

don baker
- kentucky


March 2014

A. Hi Don. We attached your inquiry to a thread which introduces many different ways of blackening stainless steel. But of these, I think only sputtering or black oxiding would meet your tolerance requirements, and sputtering will not get into those holes and threads.

Allan Lang notes that black oxiding of 303 stainless can be problematic, so I think you should contact a supplier of proprietary black oxide processes and see what they suggest. Best of luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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August 11, 2016 -- this entry appended to this thread by editor in lieu of spawning a duplicative thread

Q. Hi. We need to oxidise stainless steel small parts just like jeans buttons.

We normally using chemical name Hypo, but that is too hard chemical. After wash it left its effect and after some time stainless steel start releases rust however we use lacquer on the surface.

So is there any other process or formula to oxidise SS?

Adeel Ahmed
- Karachi. Pakistan


August 2016

? Hi Adeel. When you say you need to 'oxidize' stainless steel, I'm thinking you want to blacken it through that oxidation process (black oxide). We appended your inquiry to a thread about blackening stainless steel, and several other applicable threads can be found with that search term. If you are not intending to blacken the stainless, please help me understand what you mean by oxidize.

Regards,

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