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Thickness testing for galvanizing and anodizing


(1998)

Q. I am looking for coating thickness device for galvanizing and anodizing. My brother's running plating company that provides service in variety types of coating. Therefore, I am looking for one device that can be used for other materials such as chrome.

I also looking for chemical company for several substances for coating/plating raw material. Could you give some recommendation.

Hendri Chandra
outdated


(1997)

A. Luke Engineering specializes in hardcoating and anodizing of aluminum. We have been very pleased with the Positectors. They performed the best in our R&R testings at a third of the cost of the more expensive eddy current units. Each of our operators has one to check every load for coating thickness. Unfortunately, they can be a little too convenient. In the years we have been using them, we have dropped more than one into a tank.

Chris Jurey, Past-President IHAA
Luke Engineering & Mfg. Co. Inc.
supporting advertiser
Wadsworth, Ohio

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(1998)

A. Dear Mr. Chandra:

I have used one of the PosiPens now for several years. It is extremely handy on a plating line, since it looks just like a pencil. I obtained it from DeFelsko, and many platers have decided to get them after seeing my tester work. For a person up on a plating line, who wants to test over metallic surfaces like steel, they are great. Obviously for Aluminum they are useless. Suggest requesting literature from several vendors. Try those who advertise here on Finishing.Com first.

Good luck in your search.

ed budman
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Ed Budman
- Pennsylvania


(1998)

A. Hi, Mr. Chandra,

I suggest you try some models made by Elektro-Physik Koln. I have purchased many thickness gauges from them and found all of them quite satisfying. Actually they even surprised me that they could manufacture such a vast range of products. Galvanized coatings, anodized coatings, paints, anticorrosive coatings, and many others.

Good luck.

Alex Lee

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Q. Dear Sir,

We have the following test meter, Microprocessor coating thickness gauge "Minitest 3001". But we don't have any operating manual for this test meter. On pressing ON button it gives the "E02" code. So we are unable to operate this device. Please help us in this regard. Your early responding in this regard will be appreciated.

Regards,

Hazoor Bakhsh Laghari [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Pakistan



A. Why have you not contacted Electro-Physik (the manufacturer of the gauge)?

Marc Green
Marc Green
anodizer - Boise, Idaho



January 16, 2013

Q. We use PosiPen for plating thickness testing which shows thickness 18 to 20 micron. But when the same sample is tested by x-ray testing, it gives only 6 to 8 micron. Why?

Muhammad Khan
- Karachi, Pakistan


January 16, 2013

A. Hi Muhammad. Both devices must be calibrated. You can use microscopic cross sectioning as the referee device if you cannot resolve the discrepancy. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey


January 18, 2013

Q. Dear Sir,

Both are calibrated and also we have tested by Microscopic examination of a cross section but the Posipen result differs from both test whereas Microscopic examination and X-ray test result same. Also please mention factors on which Cyanide Zinc plating thickness depends.

Thanks

Muhammad Khan
- Karachi, Pakistan


February 1, 2013

A. Muhammed,
It seems to me you have your answer on the thickness discrepancies. Is it possible that there are other magnetic sources that are interfering with the PosiPen? It could be just a matter of technique using the PosiPen?

Main conditions that affect plating thicknesses are:
Current Density, time, metal concentration in the bath, bath temperature and pH comes into play most of the time.

tim_hamlett
Tim Hamlett
Tim Hamlett, CEF
    aerospace metals distributor
Tamarac, Florida, USA



February 1, 2013

A. I have done a lot of film thickness measurements over the years and have yet to find a method that will pass a measurement study (aka gauge reliability and repeatability study). Fortunately in my circumstance, measuring paint coating thickness, ways to evade this issue are available.

Ronald Zeeman
Coil coating - Brampton, Ontario, Canada


February 6, 2013

A. Hi Muhammad,

There a few things that can influence magnetic and eddy current type equipment for measuring thickness. Two of the commonest errors are to measure too close to an edge and to measure on a curved surface when the equipment has not been calibrated on a curved surface.

Brian Terry
Aerospace - Yeovil, Somerset, UK


February 11, 2013

A. Hi Muhammad,
I have just one line suggestion for you.
TRY DEMAGNETIZING YOUR PARTS before you use a POSI PEN.
All the best.

vikram dogra Vikram Dogra
- Chandigarh, India


February 12, 2013

thumbs up signThanks, Vikram. I'll bet you've got the answer!

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey



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