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Trying to design a structure that will
corrode to collapse quickly
April 27, 2009
My question is a bit complex. I am an architecture student in my
last year at university and I'm looking for a metal that would
literally start dissolving and breaking under normal/rainy weather
conditions. I know that acid rain can accelerate the rate of
corrosion or rust, however I was wondering which metal (which can be
used architecturally) will dissolve (not sure if this is the right
term) the fastest. The reason for this is that I would like my design
to fall apart after a period of time, preferably a year or 2. The
metal I'm looking for will be small and thin in size and will be used
at the joints. I've done alot of research and most metals will create
a surface to protect any further corrosion. This is not what I want.
Any suggestions?
Lola Jacobs
Student - UK

April 27, 2009
Hi, Lola. Make the joints out of uncoated, unpainted steel.
Accelerate the corrosion galvanically by making the panels out of
copper, brass, or stainless steel. Just don't go and do any "State of
Fear" demos of the hazards of acid rain :-)
Regards,
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Ted Mooney, P.E.
finishing.com
Brick, New Jersey
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August 22, 2009
First of all, I agree with Ted that I wouldn't like to think this
was being used as some kind of demo for how corrosive rain is.
Naturally occurring minerals can be far more corrosive; see, yellow
stone park hot springs, which are extremely acidic
Secondly, unless I've skim read too much, you didn't state a time
period for this thing to fall apart in, or the kinds of loads etc the
joints will need to support in the rotting period.
I would suggest steel or iron, but I wouldn't leave it up to nature,
I'd perhaps paint on some acidic solution to help accelerate the
rotting, or go as far as wiring them up to a low voltage power supply
to encourage the metal to rot in the damp.
Another option is something like aluminium. By coating it with
something caustic, you can easily get that to dissolve. In fact, if
you dissolve caustic soda in water until it no more will dissolve and
then drop some tin foil it, it'll rot it so quickly the liquid can
boil - depending on how much foil you add. It generates so much heat
with loads of foil and lots of solution, the temperature rises really
quick and pushes the reaction along exponentially, so it starts slow
and then takes off into a boiling mess. You can dissolve an A4 sheet
of foil in a minute or two this way.
If you're planning an artistic structure, you could construct it with
aluminium joints and then go out and paint some caustic liquid on it
every now and again. Potassium hydroxide - potash - will work even
faster than sodium hydroxide.
But I doubt aluminium will give it the feel you're after if it has to
have an artistic element to it. So you'll probably be better with
steel.
I do like Ted's galvanic idea, but it may take quite a while without
some help. My low voltage idea is basically the same but should allow
more rapid results.
If you don't know anything about electrics, take advice on wiring it
up. It won't be difficult and shouldn't be dangerous, it should only
need a couple of volts on it; which is like wiring it to a pencil
battery. But if the current is way too low, it won't help it rot
much. A wall wart power plug may be enough depending on the size of
it and time period.
Either way, I'd 100% have a barrier around said structure. The
chemicals are too dirty to have kids dipping their fingers in, the
power supply version (despite being extremely safe) is never
something to allow the public around and then the final nail in the
fence posts is the fact it's going to be structurally unsound.
John Heritage
- UK
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