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September 26, 2008
hello, this is a follow-up inquiry. I am in 10th grade honors
chemistry class and am doing a science research project. I am testing
so see whether temperature affects the amount of copper transfered
onto brass cathode. I am setting up my project and am wondering how i
could control a constant test group and a higher but sustained
temperature. Also, how much can I change the temperature to ensure I
am not doing anything unsafe by heating acids.
thank you
John S
student - Hershey, Pennsylvania, USA
Hi, John. You could use an aquarium heater, or pour hot water around your experiment dish in a double-boiler effect. But using ice in the double-boiler may be an easier way to try another temperature.
Regards,
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Ted Mooney finishing.com Brick, New Jersey |
hello,
I am struggling with my science research project. What could I use as
a base metal to plate copper onto if I am using an acid copper
solution. My teacher specified i couldnt use brass. I have found
conflicting evidence about whether I can use iron, tin, or aluminum.
help would be greately appreciated.
thank you
John S
- Hershey, Pennsylvania, USA
Electroplate onto a quarter, John. It's a cupro-nickel alloy. You cannot do scientific work electroplating onto iron, tin, or aluminum because copper will spontaneously deposit onto them, due to their lower nobility, without any electricity applied. Good luck.
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Ted Mooney finishing.com Brick, New Jersey |
Hi,
after taking much info from this site, thought it would be time to
give some back. Just tried copper immersion plating on blank steel
with household chemicals. The best recipe follows.
Source steel: 4" round disks, drum-deburred, rinsed at the factory.
They seem to be oil-free, and corrode quickly if touched by bare
fingers. Nails and other hardware which usually rusts works well,
too.
Solution: table vinegar (4% acetic acid in water?), the cheapest (and
the cleanest) brand - no flavorings, just water and acetic acid.
Kosts 40 eurocent per 1.5 liters here in Lidl :) Copper wire from a
multi-strand cable. Strip isolation, disperse the braid with your
fingers and throw it in acid. Then add a little bit of medicinal (3%)
hydrogen peroxide [link is to product info at Amazon] - this
will oxidize copper and really speed up the dissolution. You may heat
up your solution to some 50-60'C, but even without heating, if you
add peroxide, you will see blue tint develop in an hour or two. You
may add some table salt, although it seemed to me copper sticks to
steel better without.
Alternative solution: 50mM (6gr/liter) CuSO4 in vinegar. Advantage:
turns blue instantly :) so you can plate right away, but you will
need copper sulfate (which is somewhat poisonous!)
IMPORTANT: when buying vinegar, also buy a steel pan-scraping sponge.
When you are done plating, drop the sponge into your solution
overnight to remove Cu2+ ions (very bad for the environment) from the
vinegar before you dispose of it. Afterwards, you can pour the
vinegar down the drain (and trash the sponge).
Plating: 30-60sec will give you a dark copper color finish. Rinse
well in distilled water (if available), and DRY QUICKLY! (with a
tissue) Your iron is not 100% covered with copper, so it will
continue to corrode if wet. You can coat the final product with
hairspray to keep it nice for longer.
Extra trick: we first let the kids draw some stuff on the steel with
permanent markers which are invisible in daylight and fluoresce under
UV (blacklight). Then in daylight they saw their drawing "re-appear"
in the copper/vinegar plating bath.
SurfCat at Leiden
- Leiden, Holland

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