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49521
Flash Rusting on CRS Profiles in a Zinc
Phosphating Process [Saudi Arabia]
July 30, 2008
Dear Experts,
I am doing a commissioning on a new plant for a zinc phosphating
process. The sequence is like this; Knock-off Degreasing, Degreasing,
Rinse 1, Rinse 2, ZnPO4, Rinse 3, Rinse 4.
We use alkaline degreasing with bulit-in conditioning/activation on
it, thus we eliminate the activation stage and convert it into Rinse
2. At first we ran at a speed of 1.5 m/min and having a pressure on
of 1.5 bar at the ZnPO4 stage. We added half-liter of Accelerator/m3
of the tank and the Free acid is giving 0.9 points while Total acid
is about 10 points. The problem we faced was that when we ran CRS
profiles, it gave us flash rust, usually it occurs after Rinse 3 and
it grows after Rinse 4, until it drys-off.
Can you explain to me about inter-stage drying, misting on ZnPO4
stage, and what if I use nitrites as sealer instead of Hex. Chrome to
prevent flash rusting. The plant is also having a Final DI rinse but
at the moment is not yet activated.
The water we use is having conductivity of 1200 micro S/cm and a pH
of around 7.
Temperature in KOD, Degreasing and ZnPO4 is almost the same, around
55 deg. C
Best regards,
Sev
Sev Moratin
sales - Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

August 1, 2008
Hi Sev,
You don't say whether this line is spray or immersion, and this could
have an impact on the solution to the problem. You also don't list
the contact time in the phosphating stage, also important
information.
Flash rust occurs in a phosphating operation when the conditions of
the washer are ripe for corrosion. The hot, humid, acidic atmosphere
that is present in a phosphating tank is a good environment for
promoting corrosion, so this is why you have to run the line in
optimal fashion.
Firstly, I would not combine the conditioner in the alkaline cleaner.
The conditioner works much better in the rinse preceding the
phosphating stage. You don't say whether this application
specifically needs two rinses after cleaning. But if it doesn't, put
the conditioner in Rinse 2 and your will get a better phosphate
coating. The better the quality of the coating, the less chance that
flash rust will form.
Secondly, is the phosphating bath being run according to the
supplier's specifications? Your TA:FA ratio is about 11:1. For a
spray application, I would run 12:1 to 18:1. This is a general range;
the proper ratio is determined by the way the phosphating product is
formulated.
Thirdly, is the contact time sufficient to deposit a uniform coating?
If coating formation is incomplete, the flash rust may be occurring
in locations where there is little or no coating.
Finally, is the accelerator concentration correct? Too little
accelerator, and the bath is sluggish. Too much accelerator, the bath
won't form any coating.
Also, your choice of sealer (presumed that it is applied after Rinse
4) will not matter if the flash rust occurs in Rinse 3.
Hope this helps.
George Gorecki
- Naperville, Illinois
August 3, 2008
Thanks George!
By the way it is a spray application. We had already good results of
phosphating and flash rusting was eliminated when increased the TA
and reduced the FA, TA/FA ratio at about, 14/0.9 respectively. We
also reduced the pressure from 1.5 bar to 0.8 thinking that misting
in the spray helps create flash rust. We had maintained the contact
time of 2 minutes in phosphating tanks.
We will try also to employ separate conditioning prior to phosphating
and see if that will make a difference.
Regards,
Sev
- Riyadh, KSA

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