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Passivating a brazed 440C assembly
[California]
July 10, 2008
I am a mfg engineer at my company who manufactures a selection of
valves & actuators for the aircraft industry. On one item, we use
an assembly consisting of (2) 440C components that are copper brazed
together (Mil-B-7883).
The components are machined, passivated, brazed, heat treated with a
case nitride to HRC 58 to 65, and then simply cleaned and
degreased...in that order. I was called to investigate why the
assemblies in stock are "rusting". There is no doubt in my mind as to
why.
I want to move the passivation to the final step in the manufacturing
of these items, but I am unsure what will happen to the braze filler
material when exposed to the passivation solution. Will the assembly
be unharmed by the presence of copper filler in the passivate
solution? Any insight you can provide will be really appreciated.
David Vranson
Finish Specifier - Valencia, CA , USA
July 11, 2008
The nitric based passivation solution will aggressively attack the
braze. Worse than that, I think that after a few runs you will get a
copper immersion plate on some parts of the valves.
Very faint but there.
Talk to the folks at this site that sell citric based solutions. It
might be less aggressive.
440 is not rust proof, even when passivated. It is rust resistant. I
assume that you are using a flux for the braze. I think that the flux
will degrade the passivation.
My guess is that you will go to using a light oil and package each
valve in an appropriate plastic container( baggie) Note that some of
these will also cause rust.
James Watts
- FL
July 15, 2008
David
ASTM A-967 [link is to spec at TechStreet] advises against
passivating nitrided parts. See appendix X1.8
Willie Alexander
- Colorado Springs, CO
July 15, 2008
Good afternoon:
Just wanted to add a comment to what Mr. Watts has posted. Nitriding
stainless steels further reduces their corrosion resistance. The
nitrides formed at the surface will be chromium rich. For more
details, you may want to consult the
ASM Heat Treaters Guide for irons and
steels.
Steve Bizub
- St Louis, MO
July 22, 2008
Nitriding issues aside, I can back up what James Watts said.
Citric acid does attack copper, but only slowly over a long-term
exposure. For the amount of time of a passivation process, a copper
braze would not be harmed.


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