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Powder Coating - fail impact test (160 in-lbs) and Salt Fog Test 500hrs

I have problem to get my sample panel to pass the above requirement after powder coating.
Before coating we had applied required stages of pre-treatment including Zinc Phosphating. The base material used is GI (Galvanized Iron) without chromate. Impact test as per ASTM D2794. Salt Fog test as per ASTM D1654, ASTM B117 and ASTM D610. Please help me if you have any experience like this.

Thanks
Nur - QA Engineer

Nur H
fabrication and finishing - Malaysia
April 16, 2008

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This reply is the same as my reply to another similar question on this forum. Unfortunately, you inform us of the problems you are experiencing but no more. What type of powder (I presume it is not coffee or cocoa-powder°°)? What type of powder? What metal temperature do you achieve (not oven temp)? What film weight is being achieved? Once those bits of information are provided then you may get some answers from the experts. Terry Hickling Birmingham, United Kingdom April 19, 2008 April 20, 2008 Assuming your pretreatment is good, have you checked the paint for proper cure? Contact your vendor for information about the overbake temperature and time. I've run into situations where parts were obviously clean and properly prepped before paint. We could easily scrape the paint off, and they'd fail in NSS in less than 48 hours. However, when we really baked the paint, it stuck like glue and the parts passed NSS without a problem. If you haven't ruled out pretreatment, try taking some test parts and cleaning/prepping them very, very, very well. Make sure there's no chance of contamination or improper treatment. If you're unsure of both, make up a quick DOE matrix that considers pretreatment and paint cure to see what the main cause is. Christian Restifo - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

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June 11, 2008

For a powder to be perfect in all the sense, it should meet the following three criteria:
1. Good pretreatment of metal
- This as you mentioned, with zinc phosphating should take care. You can send some sample to labs analyzing Zn phosphate micron thickness coating.
2. Good curing
-Get to know from your supplier on what is the curing temp and time for this powder that you are using.
-Get your oven calibrated to show you the right temperatures.
3. %Resin in powder has to be optimum I guess it is somewhere around minimum of 70% for a good powder.
Lower the specific gravity, better is the powder.
- Ask your suppliers for %resins,plate test,sp. gravity specs and get the one with best cost and lesser sp. gravity,higher resins and higher value of plate test should help you to choose the right powder.

MOST IMPORTANT:
Check with your powder supplier on whether the tests you are doing are passing at their end or no. You may end up changing your powder.

All the best

GEETALI THAKUR
- Old Goa, Goa, India

Since your dealing with zinc phosphate, check and see if the phosphate coating is coming off with the paint. You may have poor rinsing prior to the phosphate application.

Ron Zeeman
Coil Coating - Brampton, ON, Canada
July 4, 2008

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- Tehran, Iran
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