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Letter 40024
Using Oxygen gas for Cyanide oxidation
[Texas]
March 23, 2006
We are currently looking for ways to lower our chemical costs. We
currently use chlorine bleach for oxidation and sodium bisulfite for
dechlorination. Is it possible to use oxygen gas, injected into a
carrier stream, to oxidize the cyanide in the first stage of the
process? The first stage is accomplished in a seperate tank from the
second stage, where several first stage tanks are combined to second
stage.
David M. Shook
helicopters - Grand Prairie, Texas, USA
March 24, 2006
Do not think that O2 will work well at all. It probably will take
ozone or peroxide (diluted for safety)
James Watts
- FL
First of two simultaneous responses -- March 28, 2006
Oxygen may work some if you also use a UV light.

Paul Morkovsky
- Shiner, Texas, USA
Second of two simultaneous responses -- March 29, 2006
Yes, you can oxidize cyanide with oxygen gas. In fact, you can
hydrolyze it with just water. At 50 atm pressure, and 200 degrees C,
that is. There are some proprietary cyanide destruct processes that
operate this way, mainly used by centralized waste disposal
facilities that treat concentrated cyanide wastes that other people
generate.
This is a good example of the "thermodynamics vs kinetics" problem.
Whether a reaction *can* occur, and, how fast it *will* occur, are
two separate issues.
Another example are the two cyanide treatment chemicals that Mr.
Watts mentions - hypochlorite and peroxide. Hypochlorite, or chlorine
gas, reacts with cyanide very rapidly at pH 10 - 11.5. It will also
oxidize cyanate - with enough chlorine you can take cyanide all the
way down to nitrogen gas and carbon dioxide. Peroxide, on the other
hand, is slow to react even in the presence of catalysts with
cyanide, and will not oxidize cyanate at all. And, it is very tough,
under normal conditions, to get the cyanide below about 25 ppm with
peroxide alone.
My approach to concentrated cyanide wastes (2 - 5 g/l) is to take the
pH down to about 11 with sodium bicarbonate, add copper ions as a
catalyst, then peroxide over a period of hours to bring the cyanide
down to about 50 ppm. The endpoint of this treatment stage is
signaled by a color change to green, as copper is liberated from its
colorless cyanide complex. Then, I use hypochlorite to bring it down
the rest of the way. The advantages of this are: 1) little cyanogen
chloride is generated and 2) the volume of the waste is not increased
as much as it would be if hypochlorite alone was used. Peroxide is
"stronger" in the sense that it contains more equivalents of oxidizer
per gallon.
Hope this is of some help.
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Dave Wichern
- Bronx, NY, USA
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May 21, 2006
I have seen a process described in which you add sodium chloride
and then pass a current through two electrodes. Chlorine is produced
at the anode and destroys cyanide. To be effective there are several
practical details you will need:- Presumably some agitation will be
necessary. The anode current density. The anode material, presumably
carbon. The pH.
Nick Clatworthy
- Whitstable, Kent, Great Britain
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