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Letter 39011
What's "thick Au" ?
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In FPC(Flexible Printed Circuit) field, I often hear the word
"Thick Au", but I can't find any information about it, and what I
know "Thick Au" commonly is above 0.5 micron thickness. So we need a
special bath to prepare so thick film by plating! Can you Suggest to
me some baths?
For all Above
1.what's "Thick Au",Is there any standard to define the word
2.how can i get Au film above 0.5micron in 30 second? Can you suggest
to me some baths?
Yang
- ShenZhen, China
First of three simultaneous responses -- ++++++
I don't think there is such a standard as "thick Au". The term
itself is very vague. Gold plating is priced on a specified plating
thickness per square ft. and market value. If your customer is using
this term ask them what the minimum thickness that is required.
Generally for printed circuits it's between 40-50 microinches, I
forget the exact minimum. As far as acheiving 0.5 micron Au plating
thickness in 30 seconds, forget it. Hard acid golds are only about
45% current efficient. I know when I plated PC boards it took me 12
minutes to get a thickness of 45 microinches, plating at 7 asf with
Au concentration at 0.85 tr.oz/gal. The only gold that would plate as
fast as you described, would be a Au bath with free cyanide and
higher Au concentration, but dry film photoresists and other common
coatings would break down right away. Gold concentrations are usually
1 tr.oz/gal for rack plating, plate @ 5-10 asf, if all other bath
conditions are right you should get 40-50 microinches in about 10
minutes. Good luck!
Mark Baker
Process Engineer - Syracuse, New York
Second of three simultaneous responses -- ++++++
Hi, Yang
Thick Au means thicker thickness of gold if you want higher thickness
you have to increase gold concentration in the bath. let me know
which bath you using SOFT GOLD, HARD GOLD.
Milind Patel
- Toronto, ON, Canada
Third of three simultaneous responses -- ++++++
Dear Yang,
1.Thick 'Au' means Thick Gold ( Au is the short form from the Latin
word of Aurum (gold)).The periodic table represents short forms for
all metals and most of them are derived from Latin).Another eg;
Sodium is Natrium (Na)in Latin.
2.To get 0.5 Micron in 30 seconds:Please contact your supplier. They
will be able to Guide you.
I can give you some basic calculations.
178 mg gold on one square decimeter plated is 1 micron.
Diffrent plating solutions will give various plating speed from 1
ampere per DM2 for one minute will deposit from 20 mg of gold to 110
mg of gold depending up on the formulations.
First understand your plating bath and its speed of deposition and
calculate the current and the time.
Now coming back to your requirement of getting 0.5 Microns in 30
seconds,please remember PCBs are plated with hard gold and the
efficiancy is usually within the range of 40-60 mg per amp
minute.
Let us take the bath speed as 60mg/amp minute.
U will get 1 micron in 3 amp.minute per DM2.
i.e:1 amp for 1 minute/DM2 = 60 mg
3 amp for 1 minute/DM2 = 3 x 60=180 mg=approx 1 micron
3 amp for 30 secs/DM2 =180/2= 90 mg = 0.5 Micron
But make sure your gold bath can carry 3 amps current per DM2.
Hope u are clear.
Regards
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T.K. Mohan
plating process supplier
Mumbai, India
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Ted,
It takes so much of time to answer thease kind of
questions.(calculations involved).And no responses about what they do
afterwords to deal with their problems!
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T.K. Mohan
plating process supplier
Mumbai, India
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Yes, it's a sign of the times that many people don't send proper
"thank-you notes", TK. But our aunts who nagged us to do so and
explained how the notes should be worded have passed away :-)
finishing.com does what we can, such as writing privately to
people who post repeated questions without acknowedging the posted
answers, requiring that people describe their real world situation
rather than post abstract questions, directing people to books if the
answers are too long and complicated for an internet posting. But we
can't always tell how involved an answer will be, and sometimes even
poorly asked questions inspire an educational dialog.
But don't feel obligated to answer every question; if a question
remains unanswered it usually reflects poorly on the way the question
was asked.
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Ted Mooney, P.E.
finishing.com
Brick, New Jersey
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Ted is correct that thank you notes are a thing of the past. I
view the field of electroplating and finishing very challenging and
rewarding. I don't think many of us that are willing to share our
knowledge and experience really expect a thank you note. What would
be nice to see is how these suggestions resulted in positive, and
yes, even negative results. It would enhance the educational
perspective of finishers world wide. So let us know how you are
doing, it will benefit everyone!
Mark Baker
Process Engineer - Syracuse, New York
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Dear all
Nice to see Baker's response. I do not think that any body expects a
thank u letter. So many people give practically and technically
approved suggestions(otherwise it will not pass thru Ted's
screening)that they expect whether the person is convinced or
doubtful. If he/she responds,it can create an atmosphere to have more
experienced people join to share their views and he/cancan benefit
from the discussions.
That is all what I meant.
Regards.
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T.K. Mohan
plating process supplier
Mumbai, India
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November 12, 2008
Dear Mohan,
From last couple of weeks, I was working on the same issue with
respect to 3 microns gold which we commited to our customers. Your
calculations have done the work of tallying and comparision, to
me.
Thanks for detailed explanation.
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Shafiuddin A. Mohammed
metal coating
shop
- Dubai, UAE
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