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Solution for precipitating gold from HAuCl4 solution

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Q. Respected Sir,

My technical problem is how to precipitate gold from HAuCl4 solution.We recover gold from Filing, Setting, Waste water, Consumables used in production, Emery papers, and sweeps from the production floors.

We dissolve the above mention media into aqua Regia solution & on filtration precipitate it with a solution which is called as AURO8032, locally available, which has a pH Factor of 8-9, & gives out White fumes when the can is opened. The solution also smells strongly of ammonia.

When we pour the precipitate in the HAuCl4 solution,the solution becomes black giving out yellow fizz in the solution. After few seconds you can practically see big brown spongy ball like gold getting precipitated & once all the gold in the solution has precipitated the solution at the top has lot of white foam, which indicates the end of precipitation.

We let the solution stand overnight to settle down & recover gold from it by washing it with water.

Though I know Sodium Metabisulfite, Ferrous Sulphate, S02,Copper, can precipitate gold. But with these above chemicals it takes whole day & with AURO 8032 its takes only few minutes & the precipitation is over. What could be this solution? its extremely effective & has no gold residues left in the solution. The left over solution becomes Dark bluish & Greenish in color & I am always getting 999.99 purity gold with this solution on precipitation.

I would also appreciate if you give me guide lines & Step By Step instructions on how to refine Platinum.

I am also on the lookout for books by C M Hoke & other good authors. I would like to buy these books if they are available in the market.

Awaiting an early response from you;

Best regards,

Prakash V Pai
Jobshop Employee cum Hobbyist - Maharashtra, INDIA

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Ed. note: One source of the Hoke book is Amazon =>

Refining Precious Metal Wastes


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A. You use hydrazine hydrate for gold precipitation. Don't add urea in gold chloride solution.

Bhupesh Mulik
jewellery - India


April 22, 2010

Q. Bhupesh Mulik, Many thanks for you advise regarding the use of Hydrazine Hydrate for precipitating gold. Kindly shed more light as to exact measurements or quantities to be used for a given gold chloride. Any particular ratios? Or depending on particular reaction taking place?

Godfrey Banda
Hobbyist - Lusaka Zambia


June 13, 2010

A. Hi godfrey, I'm bhupesh mulik working in jewellery company.
PtCl4+N2H4=Pt+N2+4HCl
4AuCl3+3N2H4=4Au+3N2+12HCl
4AgNO3+N2H4=4Ag+N2+4HNO3.
I hope this reaction information will solve your problem.

bhupesh mulik
jewellery - mumbai,india


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A. Dear Sir: Your product most likely contains hydrazine hydrate 64 or 85% (liquid) or hydrazine 2HCl (solid). It works well with acid gold plating baths, but does not work well with alkaline CN based baths. Please be careful: despite smelling like ammonia, it is carcinogenic and toxic to fish and people. It will also reduce platinum salts to Pt metal in highly alkaline media (pH>10).

Richard Michael Grazul
- Juiz de Fora, MG Brazil


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thumbsup2Kind attn: Richard Michael Grazul & Bhupesh Mulik,
Thanks a ton. It was great to get a reply from you.I will try the mentioned solution for precipitation this week.

Q. I would further like to know how to precipitate Platinum From the Aqua regia solution!.
Secondly why should I not add urea to the solution as this helps remove the Nitric Fumes from the solution to Neutralize before Precipitation with the help of Hydrazine hydrate?(64%or 85%?)

Can we mix HCl & Hydrazine Hydrate directly?
or is there a process for the same ?

Thanking you once again for your kind gesture.....

PRAKASH V PAI
- Maharashtra, India


May 22, 2010

A. Hi I'm bhupesh mulik
I dilute hydrazine hydrate with five parts of water, that is 1:5. Then you add it in your gold chloride solution. You can get exact value by checking your pH level of gold chloride.

bhupesh mulik
jewellery - mumbai


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Q. Precipitate gold from aqua regia. I'm investing about gold precipitating from aqua regia. I know sodium metabisulfite, ferrous sulfate. But I want to learn more about hydrazine hydrate, SO2, formaldehyde, hydroquinone and Oxalic Acid [linked by editor to product info at Rockler]. My company will begin to use aqua regia process for refining gold; can you give me an answer about when I must use which precipitant for the best purifying?

Catalyst for gold analysis? A few days ago, I began to use ICP-MS for gold analysis. I want to learn if some interference the gold and affect my result. If I must use a catalyst for analysis. I use aqua-regia solution for analysis.

þenay þen
chemical engine - Istanbul, TURKEY

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Q. I AM A NEW GOLD PROSPECTOR, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADVISED ON SOME OF MY CONCENTRATE THAT I HAVE PROCESSED USING MY MICROWAVE TABLE. FIRSTLY, WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL the ACTUAL COLOUR OF CONCENTRATE; I HAVE BEEN TABLING ORE FROM VARIOUS VEINS AND WOULD VERY MUCH NEED SOME ASSISTANCE ON AQUA REGIA LEACHING METHOD. VERY MUCH THANK IF YOU ARE ABLE TO ADVISE OR EDUCATE ME IN THIS MATTER
JIMI

Jimi Lim
- Singapore



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February 12, 2008

Q. Dear sir, I want to know the process of refining of gold from aqua regia by step by step.

Mohammad Shakir
jeweler - Saharanpur U.P. India


February 13, 2008

A. Hi, cousin Mohammad. Prakash named a good book, "Refining Precious Metal Wastes: Gold, silver, platinum metals" by C. M. Hoke, if you wish to know the whole of this broad subject. Another good one is "Recovery and Refining of Precious Metal" by C. W. Ammen. =>

If you can please come back with some specific questions that can be answered in a few paragraphs, readers of this forum may be able to help you with them. But step-by-step instructions for a subject that fills whole shelves in libraries, is a bit like asking for the step-by-step instructions to perform an appendectomy :-)

Good luck, and Thanks!

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey

Recovery And Refining Of Precious Metals



February 22, 2008

Q. I HAVE REDUCED A BRICK OF ALUMIA TO A LIQUID USING HYDROCHLORIC ACID UNDER LOW HEAT. THE RESULT IS HYDROGEN CHLORIDE, THE BRICK HAVING PRECIOUS METAL, I DISTILLED THE HYDROGEN CHLORIDE INTO A GLASS CONTAINER AND THERE IS A BLACK SUBSTANCE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE CONTAINER. WOULD THIS BE PLATINUM BLACK OR RHODIUM BLACK? AND IF SO, HOW DO I GET IT TO A SALT OR IF ITS BOTH PLATINUM AND RHODIUM, HOW DO I SEPARATE THE TWO THEN GET THEM TO A SALT? THANK YOU DAVID

DAVID STUART
HOBBYIST - MERIDIAN, Mississippi


March 19, 2008

Q. I have done a small research about precipitating gold out of Aqua Regia solution.
I use 3 HCL+1 Nitric Acid to make Aqua Regia.
Let it work 1 night or simply heat it up for a while to shortened the process.
Filter the solution and neutralize it with Urea or just heat it up until all of the nitric vaporized. Watch out not to lose any precious metal during the heating. Test the pH.
Precipitate gold using sodium metabisulfite/ zinc.

You can use above method for any kind of source which contains gold.
I need a favour about precipitating platinum out of the solution. Should I use salmiac?

Regards,

Ivan Christianto
- Salatiga, Central Java, Indonesia

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Ed. note: "Salmiac"? Sorry, that word doesn't sound familiar. Is that perhaps the same as "sal ammoniac"?


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Sal Ammoniac



June 27, 2008

Q. I buy scrap gold from market , granulate it and digest it to aqua regia digestion. The excess nitric of the gold solution is driven with urea addition till the point where the urea dose not react any more. Then I use pure S02 to precipitate the gold. but I do not get the full recovery . I get only 75%. rest I have to get thru metabisulphite treatment. my question;

Why I am not getting the full recovery with S02 at first ?

d. bhatta
jewellery making - Calcutta, India


July 7, 2008

A. In response to d. bhatta
To drop a larger % you must slowly heat solution to simmering, just below 200 f (do not boil). Wait at least 1 hour before filtering, re-filter. Also consider your ct/in (?) compared to ct/out (24K).
If Pt is in solution you want to drop that first, same way with NH4Cl. Hope this helps.

Two other things,
1) Na2SO4 is better for dropping the gold (free electrons
greater reactivity)
2) Rest solution 24 hours after dropping last of Pt
It falls out on its own, filter and save up.
It will help pay for your chems.
If you are selling your Pt bring the It with you
some buyers will try to tell you your Pt is 10% It
This way you can say this is Pt and this is It and get
full value for your Pt.

Tim Evans
ores - LaGrange Texas



July 9, 2008

Q. Dear Sir:
I am a hobbyist in gold refining, after using the different steps in getting the gold mud, I am left with liquid that is a brilliant blue or sometimes a vibrant green. Can you tell me what these are? Are they unreclaimed silver, platinum, palladium or rhodium?
What do the different colors mean? And if so, how do I reclaim those? Thank you

Ronda White
hobbyist - Chloride, Arizona


July 12, 2008

A. I'll give the green blue question a try.
Vivid almost neon green is the norm color of a used up (or near empty) solution. I test with with aqua ammonia test liquid to see if I missed anything, but do that, to the side in a test dish. If gold is still present it winnings. with ammonia turning your solution blue.
Pt group metals normally just make the solution look muddy till dropped.
Anybody else have any other ideas?

BTW Aqua Regia should be filtered before adjusting the pH and just after.
If silver and/or a couple other nasty insoluble alloys get in the further process you run the risk of creating silver fulminate (bad stuff, highly unstable sim. to nitro when dry or dry heated)
2 simple filterings may save a lot of grief.

Tim Evans
- LaGrange Texas



October 20, 2008

Q. I recently started gold recovery on a small scale, I dissolved circuit boards in a aqua regia solution, but now I'm lost. I would like to recover the gold in the solution but it seems way too dangerous for an amateur like me. So is there a SAFE EASY WAY TO DO THIS or do I need a chemistry lesson, and can I dispose of the solution safely? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

wes covert
newby - defuniak springs, Florida


December 5, 2008

A. Just some quick info. I know the owner/ops really dislike "gold recycling" :) I see their point it's finishing, not financing.

I will say that you are using a form of Hydrazine or more likely Hydroxyl Amine- HCl. The HCl is usually neutralized with KOH or NaOH to a pH of 7. Hydrazine is rocket fuel. 3 factory explosions have been attributed to it spontaneously. It is not a contaminant.
Hydrazine is N2H4 with a sulfate or HCl
Hydroxyl Amine - is NH2OH-HCl.

For my application there is no comparison. I have tried, every cementing and reducing agent. NH2OH wins hands down. It rains sand. There is a bit of chem needed to use it. I strip gold based on ammonium iodine/Iodine. Don't try it unless you have a degree. screw up just a little and you made a touch sensitive explosive! I will say it strips all precious metals including rhodium. 3 minutes to strip MilSpec gold plate. The solution is regenerated and reused with H202. 1 Gallon -(3.7 L) strips about 4 ounces troy vs cyanide which is 0.7 oz Troy it is done in the presence of a buffer. pH is neutral to slightly basic. Doesn't burn, isn't toxic, and does not "REQUIRE" a fume hood.
The best part is that the attack of base metals is virtually none. Until using this I hated all that was nickel and copper. :)

Just remember be safe,
Find the right forum to join,
and to all those of you get rich quick-start a lab in the garage types -got 50 beakers of witches brew and are stuck...It's not your fault. The GOOD lack of information is absurd. The first thing a person does is googles gold. Aqua regia comes up, they run to the lab supply and are knee deep in it.

While it is not your desire to provide info on the topic, I do feel it is your responsibility to give better redirection. I have Hoke's book. and cottons, and every other one. They all read fine, if you have done it before... The point is that no one is going to buy the book. They want to use the internet. They want to interact with others. why, what, how? Hoke is most likely dead and rendering him unavailable to email.
Please find a responsible refining forum to represent as a service to yourself and others.
Sorry if I stepped on toes.

Don Vdeleted
- Lake Geneva, Wisconsin


Hi, Don. Yes, the main focus of this site is metal finishing -- but I don't understand your "not financing" complaint :-)

We've posted many people's ideas on this page and on dozens of other threads about recycling precious metals, and are certainly appreciate yours -- but please don't include ad hominem bitching. Such stuff is unwelcome on any site.

The original inquirer specifically asked where he could buy Hoke's book!

People must have books and reputable materials! Can you imagine being on a witness stand after someone was maimed or killed in an accident (been there several times) and trying to justify that you proceeded on internet forum advice from strangers, who were possibly even posting with fictitious names?

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey

January 29, 2009

A. Wes Covert: Since you are a newbie to gold refining, you might try www.goldrefiningforum.com. Very knowledgeable. Great people and many answers. B

Ben Peters
- E. Flat Rock, North Carolina


August 6, 2009

A. A source of information for which you are looking is goldrefiningforum.com.

This site has topics about gold and other precious metals, from eScrap, ore, and old jewelry.

It had detailed information on refining, of course.

On this site, safety is a big topic.

There is a lot to read on the site, and it is usually better to read and follow links there before asking questions (especially long complicated questions which would be answered if you just read your corresponding topics first). Single item questions about anything which is not totally clear to you are best received, and will certainly be answered.

I'm new to recovery and refining, and the Gold Refining Forum is the best site I've found for learning this stuff safely. Also they are big on helping to determine which chemicals would be most economical for your particular applications.

Have fun.

Eethr Don
- Oakland, California


August 15, 2009

Hi, Eethr. Your recommendation of goldrefiningforum.com certainly isn't a problem; it was already suggested previously on this page, and many times on this site.

But please try to contribute at least a little technical content with your posting as well. First, links do go bad, and we don't like to offer nothing but distraction and frustration when that happens. Second, not everyone likes every forum (you can see that some people don't like this one); readers can't view that site to see if it's of interest to them until they've gone through a registration process, and some readers prefer open forums -- so we offer what help we can, without claiming that our coverage of a topic is as exhaustive as another site's coverage of a topic. Thanks!

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey


What is AURO 8032 Gold Precipitant?

August 25, 2008

Q. Dear sir,
I am working in a branded jewellery manufacturing group. Can I know the supplier for AURO 8032 chemical which is used to precipitate the gold solution. Please reply to me.

KANTHANATHAN SELVAM
Plating Shop Employee - Hosur,Tamil Nadu,India
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March 17, 2009

Q. What is the AURO 8032 solution and from where I could find this solution? And what would be the approx. price of this solution

Anshul Mundra
- India
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August 12, 2010appended

Q. I am working in Gold Refining industry since 1994. I have read questions and answer in your finishing.com. It is interesting. After read this, idea come - alternate for Sodium bi-sulphate while doing Gold Precipitation. The alternate chemical name is AURO 8032. Can you tell me the address for buying the above mentioned chemical. It will be very useful for alternate precipitate gold process. I am eagerly waiting for your reply.

Ravi Kumar
product designer - Tamilnadu, India

October 23, 2010

A. You may get AURO 8032 from Aurotech bureau, JVPD MUMBAI INDIA

amit mehta
- mumbai,india


March 20, 2009

Q. I'm wondering as to how you can use copper as a precipitant. I've never heard of this method and wanted to know if you could elaborate on this. Currently I use a precipitant called Storm =>
and, whilst it works well, it's rather expensive.

Also if anyone knows a good distributor of sodium bisulfate in the US I would appreciate it greatly.

William P. Momani
- Yardley, Pennsylvania

Ed. note: the site's supporting advertiser Coyne Chemical is not far from you and presumably supplies sodium bisulphate.

Storm gold precipitant


June 11, 2012

Q. DEAR SIR,
I USE AQUA REGIA FOR GOLD REFINING. PLEASE TELL ME THE GOOD GOLD PRECIPITATION CHEMICAL TO PRECIPITATE GOLD, AND THE MEASUREMENTS FOR IT.
THANKS

ASHOK VERMA
- New Delhi, India


January 15, 2013

A. Dear sir, you use sodium metabisulphite for ppt of gold. You can obtain 99.99 gold reaction with smbs Na2S205. Redox value will be 300 mv.

Shadab
- Gurgaon, India



March 15, 2009

Q. Hey, dear folks.
Please, I want to ask you if can I precipitate gold from aqua regia with (pb) or not.

abdo alarbi
small shop - Tripoli, Libya

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Ed. note: What does "(pb)" mean in this context? Lead maybe?




April 3, 2009


A. Dear Readers,
I have previously visited this web site which is a great place to acquire and give advice from others interested in gold and precious metal recovery from many sources in general.

The book by Hoke is one of the best available references of information. I either have a copy of the book or photocopy for educational purposes.

I usually work with materials left at old mine sites. I have worked with boards. I mesh and grind the mine site materials,then table these on a Wilfley to acquire a concentrate for either furnacing or leaching. After furnacing I granulate the metals to increase the surface area then do a dissolution in Aqua Regia. Using Nitric first on your granulated metal enables you to recover your silver by precipitation with either salt water or Hydrochloric Acid. You will also dissolve your Palladium in this process which can be recovered later. However Dimethylgloxime is expensive and possibly just using the aluminium method that follows will enable you to recover a metal for assay and sale.

If no silver is present I go to Aqua Regia (weak or strong),boil it down,add urea to remove any remaining Nitric and then adjust my pH to 7. I then add Sodium Metabilsulphite to drop the metals,filter and dry. I then clean the powder with weak ammonia to remove any possible co- precipitated silver. Again filter and dry and clean with hydrochloric or just boil in water to lump it together.

You should be able to furnace this directly using just Boraxamazoninfo. Also add a small pinch of saltpeter to the charge before pouring into a suitable mould. Clay crucibles are good to use with this method. The gold should be 99.99% or four nines as they say.

If you had Platinum in your solution and after gold recovery using Sodium Metabilsulphite (used for sterilizing bottles etc) you can use Ammonium Chloride or simply add aluminium foil(within the periodic table and reactive series) and let it do an exchange. This will drop all metals as either a brown or fine black powder which could also include any gold you have missed. Also if anything goes wrong during the initial precipitation process and you think you have lost metals simply dilute your solution with 50% hot water water and add a small amount of hydrochloric acid and add aluminium. Ensure there is enough hydrochloric to maintain a pH for the aluminium to work.

Undertake your dissolution again with your Aqua Regia on your dry powders and follow the precipitation process/recovery process. Never throw or discard solutions until these are finally tested with aluminium.

A further method to recover all metals from solution is to add Soda Ash slowly to a boiling solution. It will slowly neutralize. This will drop all of your metals as a black powder.

I would like to see more information on the precipitate Hydrazine Hydrate as I have never used it before. What is its industrial use? Can someone advise? I am presently developing a leaching process suited for the materials I am interested in locally.

If you are using aqua regia to dissolve boards etc, aluminium will recover your gold which you will see coming to the top as yellow gold powder or flake. Tin solder should be cleaned from pins and points using something like hydrochloric before Aqua Regia. This can cause problems later as it will also bring down your metals.

To be sure simply filter the powders and dry. Then boil in Sodium Hydroxide at a pH of 12 for about two hours to covert the metals to an oxide. Again filter and dry. Then place in an oven at 400 °C for about two hours to convert this from an oxide to metal.

I hope the above helps or that it can at least can rectify or get you out of trouble if something goes wrong.

Don Buckley
- Braidwood NSW Australia



May 25, 2009

Q. Hi,
I have just started with gold refining. I have dissolved my gold findings and gold plated pins in Aqua Regia; the solution turned a deep, almost black green color. I neutralized the nitric acid with Urea and added Ferrous Sulphate but nothing happened; no gold precipitated out of the solution.
Can you please give me advice?

Thanks in advance!

Johan Geyser
Hobbyist - Lephalale, Limpopo, South Africa


June 14, 2009

Q. Dear friends. I am a medical practitioner, age 61. I have been in practice for approx. 35 years. My serious interest in gold refining is triggered by the fact that the pension that I was promised will not materialize. I am stockpiling computer pins, CPU's, and gold fingers from the edges of boards. It is my aim to have 100-150 kilograms of pins, etc. before turning this into cash (income tax reasons.)I need all the basic help that I can get so as not to waste this opportunity. Sourcing material, i.e. computer boards etc, is not too difficult. I need a basic users guide book or something like it so as not to do myself in or injure anyone. I know the danger of reactive chemicals. Please help me with a workable solution to achieve maximum results. I must admit that I am enjoying the whole discovery to the envy of some friends and family!
I hope to hear from you soon. Many thanks. Mark.

Mark McDonogh
New experimenter - Pietermaritzburg. South Africa


July 22, 2009

Q. I have been working with this for about 6 months, but have spent a lot of time and money and work trying to drop and recover the gold out of computer boards and phone boards.
Use urea have followed directions I use aqua regia, I urea, I use sodium metabisulfite , I then start cleaning , Wash , then add back HCL, boil, then clean water, then ammonia, then water, then refilter.
Then I am getting my precipitant is almost a silver, nickel platinum color. I see specks of red. I use a torch gas MAPP with Air.
I then tried oxalic acid to drop with, then same cleaning process.
I can take criticism just please be kind. I tried last week after my precipitant dropped good color nice yellow powder. I used lye to boil trying to clean out anything left. I am still getting the same drop when heated. And the same platinum, nickel, silver color result when torched. Suggestions please.

John Gamel
retired ,income - helena Alabama



T-6 Leaching for Gold Recovery

November 17, 2009

Q. I recently started gold recovery and have used aqua regia but I heard using a method called T-6 leaching an easier method. Does anyone know the T-6 method?

Lynn Tucker
hobbyist - Elgin, Texas


November 11, 2010

Q. I am responding to Lynn Tucker of Elgin Texas who asked about T-6. I know it was a year ago. I just now found this site and would like to find anyone familiar with T-6.

Steve Rogers
- Denton, North Carolina USA


January 16, 2010

Q. I need an alternative for sodium metabisulfite/ferrous sulphate/ sulphur dioxide gas. apart from these what else can be used as a reagent in gold refining process.to get 99.99%purity.

anil chavan
job work - sangli,mh,India


February 4, 2011

A. Dear Anilji,
Please use Hydrazine Hydrate to precipitate gold from Aqua regia after neutralising the solution with 25% urea solution.
This will give you the necessary result in recovering pure gold.
regards,

prakash v pai
- India


February 9, 2010

A. For those who are a bit farther along in the chemistry side; I stumbled onto a patent using 1:5-ish ratio of Hydroquinone to Oxalic acid for a reducing agent. It works really, really well!
The purification steps after reduction cut down to virtually nothing. This is for clean solutions though, the oxalic acid brings down the house. The powder is a blend of particles 3 micron to 15 micron I believe.... thought I would share.

Donovan Vanderbloomen
- Lake Geneva, Wisconsin


May 19, 2010

Q. Hello,
First I want to admit I am not a chemist, I did take chemistry but I was doing my own experiments with the THC. So I'm chemistry limited and I hope you guys don't tear me up too bad for asking questions which to you are dumb. I am not a chemist but I am a metallurgist and I am puzzled when I read about all the work you guys go thru to isolate these metals with costly and environmentally dangerous chemicals? Do you do this for fun or to experiment? I ask because a good furnace can separate with very impressive results.

Harold Bawlcz
metals enthusiast - Chicago, Illinois


February 4, 2011

Your kind attn: Mr.Harold Bawlcz,
metals enthusiast - Chicago, Illinois
I am quite curious with the separation technique you have put forward in this site. I would like to know more & am interested in trying out the same for better results.
Could you be more specific about separation of metals as mentioned by you?

Awaiting for your response.
regards,

prakash v pai
- India


September 23, 2010

A. Hello,

I read with interest the observations regarding the recovery of gold.
It seems appropriate to use basic microchemical test to identify elements present in solution.
"liquid that is a brilliant blue or sometimes a vibrant green" may indicate copper is present : on dilution the solution is blue and adding hydrochloric acid, the color turns green.
I work on gold produced via transmutation of silver. The dissolution of silver with nitric acid then adding HCl , heating and filtering silver chloride gives a solution that contains copper (also part of the initial silver alloy ) and eventually gold.
Chromatography of the solution with n-butanol/HCl and the test with p-dimethylaminobenzilidenerhodanine, gives a reddish spot at the front of the eluent that indicates gold, sensitivity is 0.2 µg.

To recover gold from the solution (hundreds of micrograms) , I proceed, first, to a concentration of gold with ethyl acetate, then I treat again the organic phase : evaporation, dissolution by
aqua regia, ... and precipitation with hydroquinone as recommended by Beamish, because this precipitant gives a workable precipitate free of copper and other elements.

To follow the precipitation of gold, I use chromatography of one drop of the solution with n-butanol/HCl and the test with p-dimethylaminobenzilidenerhodanine.

Albert Cau
- Toulon - Var - France


October 9, 2010

Q. 1. Can I use Sodium Sulfite (Na2SO3) to precipitate gold from aqua regia? What is the different if I use Sodium Metabisulfite (Na2S2O5), Sodium Sulfate (Na2SO4), and Sodium Sulfite (Na2SO3)? What is the best precipitant from all of that?
2. If I want to neutralize the water (there is no contain gold anymore), can I use Sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO2)? Are the rest of the metal will precipitate with the sodium bicarbonate, or only with Sodium Carbonate/Soda Ash the metal will precipitate?

Thank you, sorry if I ask too much.

Handy Tan
- Indonesia

September 25, 2011

A. Hi, mr. handy tan
you are using smb for Au precipitation, but according to my opinion it will be better to use ferrous sulphate. Second, for neutralisation you add urea and add zinc dust to reduce all metals, another thing is for recovering colloidal particles you add very few polyelectrolyte in your waste solution.

bhupesh mulik
lignin research centre - mumbai,india

September 11, 2012

A. I did my final paper on the gold precipitate from aqua regia solution using hydroquinone. It was so simple and attaining 99.99% purity after firing was an incredible delight.

Refining the silver chloride left over from the solution was a little more of a chore but I got to within 80%.

Just wish I could remember the book it was all published in.

Grahamdeleted
- ottawa ontario canada



May 19, 2012

Q. Hello. Can somebody help me how can I precipitate silver from aqua regia? Thanks.

Bujar Bakiu
- Skopje, Macedonia


May 21, 2012

A. Hi Bujar.

There is nothing else dissolved in the aqua regia, just pure silver?

Regards,

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey


June 1, 2012

Q. Dear Friends,
Until now I see that, for the precipitation of gold from aqua regia, I can use "hydrazine hydrate, zinc, sodium metabisulphite and hydroquinone."
I study physics, so, no relation with chemistry. But all my energy is concentrated in this operation. Please help me sir.
Greetings.

Ingrit Xhomaqi
- Tirana, Albania


June 2, 2012

Q. Hello, I'm questioning myself, how can I separate the gold from aqua regia if I dissolve the e-waste. In the waste I don't get only gold, but a variety of dissolved metals.
Regards

Ingrit Xhomaqi
- Tirana, Albania

August 21, 2012

Q. Could anyone help me with recovering gold from sodium cyanide solution which we use to etch gold? We have recovered 97% but are unable to recover the rest.

ritesh dhakan
jeweller - mumbai india


February 16, 2013

Q. I want to use the aqua regia method to recover gold from my computer scrap. I thought I would start with some gold plated pins and foils off of fingers and RAM chips so I wouldn't have to worry about any ferrous metal contamination but I want to be sure about my process just in case. I am using hydrochloric acid and sodium nitrate instead of nitric due to the cost of nitric. I have the proper ratio to use after consulting the correct chart for molecular weigh etc. but the aqua regia mix is not my concern.

I am using sodium metabisulphite to precipitate the gold once dissolved but I don't want ferrous metal dropping too to ruin my gold. I am to understand that before adding the SMB that I need to kill off the nitric and lower the ph so no metal drops also. I also read you can add a little zinc. First I heard of the zinc but I thought the urea would keep anything but the gold from dropping. Starting with a small amount of non metallic plated pins and gold from board fingers separately in small amounts, I didn't think metal contamination would be a problem anyway but I want to be sure. After all metal is dissolved in aqua reqia and I add urea until reaction stops will this protect anything but the gold from dropping?

Please give advice because even though I will use small quantities for first test, I want to do it right. Then with more experience I will process my CPU's. Please tell me proper procedure so I can learn right. I will use peroxide/muriatic or clorox method to remove gold from fingers so I don't expect problems there but I am concerned about processing the pins. I know about washing the gold properly before melting and using borax but post is too long to give all details. Please give advice if this process will work without dropping any unwanted metals or if I need to add a process or do something different? Thanks in advance for any help!!

Joseph Smith
computer repair-self employed - Stanley, North Carolina, united States


June 27, 2013

Q. Hello everyone. I know that I can use sodium metabisulphite and sodium bisulphite to precipitate gold. But my problem is that those two products are very hard to find where I live. I got some sodium sulphite and I wonder if I could use that instead or can I mix it with something to get smb? Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions. Oh and I've seen all the other stuff one can use for gold precipitation but its all hard to get hold of. Thanks

Hannes van Loggerenberg
- Richardsbay, Kzn, South Africa


August 11, 2013

Q. Let me say first that your advice is excellent and very well phrased. Thank you.
I have tried to precipitate platinum and gold from a solution of aqua regia. Broken ceramic computer chips were covered with aqua regia and left to work over night. This was done in accordance with the C.M. Hoke book. The next step was to add water to the solution and filter out the broken computer chip pieces. Then the solution was boiled down to almost nothing and hydrochloric acid added and this was done a second time. Then I added 4 volumes of water. Not knowing if any platinum was present I added ammonium chloride to the solution and waited for the Platinum to precipitate. Nothing came down. I just had a blue green clear solution. I then added ferrous sulfate to bring down the gold. Nothing happened. I still had a clear blue green solution. I then boiled down the solution to one quarter of its volume. The solution became dark green with a yellow tint. It stayed this color permanently. I don't know what I did wrong and I don't know what to do next. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Gerry Braxton
- Romney, West Virginia, USA
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Ferrous sulphate didn't precipitate the gold as it should or fizzle

October 23, 2013

Q. I use aqua regia to process some scrap gold from computers, everything went well up until the point where the ferrous sulphate didn't fizzle or show progress in dropping the gold mud. Can you tell me a solution to fix this problem? Or I have no choice but to dump the batch and use metabisulphate next time, as this is the first time I'm working with ferrous sulphate.

Keith Morrison
- Miramichi, New Brunswick, Canada
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