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What is MIL-STD-171 188.8.131.52 or 184.108.40.206
Q. I do the purchasing and quoting for a small job shop and am trying to find out what 220.127.116.11. or 18.104.22.168 of MIL-STD-171 is. I would greatly appreciate any help.Greg T [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
Job Shop - Houston, Texas
A. Greg, you can find Military Specifications on the web pretty easily- currently
http://assist.daps.dla.mil/quicksearch/^ works, but if the DoD changes it just type in "Military Specification" in Google, and you'll get there. Anyway, in Revision E, paragraph 22.214.171.124 deals with Chemical Agent Resistant Coatings (CARC), and there is no 126.96.36.199. Perhaps your request refers to an earlier revision of Mil-Std-171.
Ed. note: The Assist site has moved many times over the years, so we are now using active macros to link directly to the specs in question, as below ...
A. Mil-STD-171 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency, dla.mil] E concerns Phosphate finishes for iron & low alloy steels.
188.8.131.52. is Phosphate Type M per DOD-P-16232 [ed. note: replaced by MIL-DTL-16232 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency, dla.mil]].
Class 2, is with a supplementary treatment with lubricating oil conforming to MIL-L-3150 [ed. note: superceded by Mil-PRF-3150 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency, dla.mil]], and 184.108.40.206. is Phosphate Type Z per DOD-P-16232 Class 2 with preservative conforming to MIL-PRF-16173 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency / dla.mil] , grade 3 or MIL-L-3150 (as alternate for very small parts) Hope this helps.Marie M [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Santa Fe Springs, California, USA
April 3, 2008
A. Marie M's answer is the correct one! Mil STD 171 is the standard for industry to coat bare metals to a certain specification for the Department of Defense. MIL-STD-193 is the standard for CARC.
US ARMY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT LAB - Picatinny Arsenal New Jersey
July 27, 2010
A. 220.127.116.11, 18.104.22.168 and 22.214.171.124 are all heavy manganese phosphate coating designations found in MIL-STD-171
- Marion, Iowa, USA
November 3, 2010
A. Sorry, I was lost as Lee was, because this spec has a section 126.96.36.199, but that's not not what you are talking about . . . you are talking about finish number 188.8.131.52 and 184.108.40.206, from Table V
Although phosphated parts that are not oiled usually get painted, I don't see this specification demanding that they be painted.
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. I am working on a dwg. and need help, it calls out the following spec, I will type exactly as I see it called out.
Finish 220.127.116.11 OR 18.104.22.168
Plus 30.7 TYPE 111 OF MIL-STD-171, .0002-.0003 THICK
CAN YOU PLEASE HELP?
- Appleton, Wisconsin
November 2, 2010
Q. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE 2 VS 3 IN 22.214.171.124 MIL-STD-171 AND 126.96.36.199
Thinking difference is .2 for oiling parts and .3 for not oiled parts to be painted?Matt DuVall
- Bloomington, Minnesota, USA