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What is MIL-STD-171 22.214.171.124 or 126.96.36.199
Q. I do the purchasing and quoting for a small job shop and am trying to find out what 188.8.131.52. or 184.108.40.206 of MIL-STD-171 is. I would greatly appreciate any help.Greg T [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
Job Shop - Houston, Texas
A. Greg, you can find Military Specifications on the web pretty easily- currently
http://assist.daps.dla.mil/quicksearch/^ works, but if the DoD changes it just type in "Military Specification" in Google, and you'll get there. Anyway, in Revision E, paragraph 220.127.116.11 deals with Chemical Agent Resistant Coatings (CARC), and there is no 18.104.22.168. Perhaps your request refers to an earlier revision of Mil-Std-171.
Ed. note: The Assist site has moved many times over the years, so we are now using active macros to link directly to the specs in question, as below ...
A. Mil-STD-171 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency, dla.mil] E concerns Phosphate finishes for iron & low alloy steels.
22.214.171.124. is Phosphate Type M per DOD-P-16232 [ed. note: replaced by MIL-DTL-16232 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency, dla.mil]].
Class 2, is with a supplementary treatment with lubricating oil conforming to MIL-L-3150 [ed. note: superceded by Mil-PRF-3150 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency, dla.mil]], and 126.96.36.199. is Phosphate Type Z per DOD-P-16232 Class 2 with preservative conforming to MIL-PRF-16173 [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency / dla.mil] , grade 3 or MIL-L-3150 (as alternate for very small parts) Hope this helps.Marie M [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Santa Fe Springs, California, USA
April 3, 2008
A. Marie M's answer is the correct one! Mil STD 171 is the standard for industry to coat bare metals to a certain specification for the Department of Defense. MIL-STD-193 is the standard for CARC.
US ARMY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT LAB - Picatinny Arsenal New Jersey
July 27, 2010
A. 188.8.131.52, 184.108.40.206 and 220.127.116.11 are all heavy manganese phosphate coating designations found in MIL-STD-171
- Marion, Iowa, USA
November 3, 2010
A. Sorry, I was lost as Lee was, because this spec has a section 18.104.22.168, but that's not not what you are talking about . . . you are talking about finish number 22.214.171.124 and 126.96.36.199, from Table V
Although phosphated parts that are not oiled usually get painted, I don't see this specification demanding that they be painted.
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. I am working on a dwg. and need help, it calls out the following spec, I will type exactly as I see it called out.
Finish 188.8.131.52 OR 184.108.40.206
Plus 30.7 TYPE 111 OF MIL-STD-171, .0002-.0003 THICK
CAN YOU PLEASE HELP?
- Appleton, Wisconsin
November 2, 2010
Q. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE 2 VS 3 IN 220.127.116.11 MIL-STD-171 AND 18.104.22.168
Thinking difference is .2 for oiling parts and .3 for not oiled parts to be painted?Matt DuVall
- Bloomington, Minnesota, USA