|
Letter 30069
How to start your own Chrome Plating shop
[Texas]
++++
Hi Ted,
I'm 28 years old and I'm seeking a career in chrome plating, I've
always been interested in opening my own shop however I have no idea
where to start, what advise would you give someone with no experience
for me to start? How much investment do you think would be required?
I want to keep my full time job and start this as a weekend gig and
eventually do this full time. I know it's something I can't do out of
a garage or home. Every time I ask people who have experience on this
they seem to not want to share the info, I guess its a competitive
thing? Anyway if you could just give me your input on this would be
highly appreciative. Thanks Ted for all your support!
Fernie Campos
Hobbyist - Addison, TX, USA
++++
Sure, there are some limits to what knowledge people are willing
to freely share, but nobody is seriously concerned about potential
competition from you. Do you worry that someone with no experience,
and no idea how to start, will teach themself your boss' job on
weekends, while holding a full time job in another industry, then
jump in and put your boss out of business and you out of work?
It's more like this: after you've read four or five plating books,
joined the AESF (www.aesf.org), attended a few meetings, taken a
5-day electroplating course (AESF or
Kushner Plating School), then
people will be able to help you. Trying to tell someone how to
start a chrome plating business with no background is like trying to
explain to someone how to apply Laplace transforms to solve
differential equations when they haven't had algebra yet.
I'm not saying that it is highly technical rocket science; to the
contrary, I knew a fellow with a 6th-grade education who successfully
ran a plating shop, but if you want to learn how to compete
successfully in it with insufficient experience to even land a
journeyman position in a plating shop is a hard thing to do.
If you quit your present full-time job and become a plater, then
people will worry about competition from you! Barring that,
step one is to read our FAQ on Chrome
Plating, step two is to read the
Metal Finishing Guidebook cover to
cover, Fernie. Then get back to us.
I'm glad you don't want to do it out of your garage. Good luck.

Ted Mooney, P.E.
finishing.com Inc. - Brick,
NJ
++++ -- appended to existing
thread in lieu of spawning a duplicate thread
Hello My name is Ray (for short)
I have a few questions about starting a plating business.
I understand that most people warn off Home brew set ups which I
can understand. I'm not here to argue setting one up at home but I
was wondering is there safe alternate chemicals to work with? I was
reading on some of these home starter set up sites where you could
buy environment safe products like an imitation chrome. Is this
really safe for us and the environment or is it a smoke screen? I'm
just needing something right now to plate on plastic parts as far as
chrome is concerned. Then I read where there is Gold plating kits
without poisonous gases to deal with or is that BS also? Now if I set
one up whether at home or a shop is there a economy version of a
waste management system? I mean if I have to open a shop in order to
plate I think I should start small and see if it will catch on. I
don't want to sink a 100,000 into something that may not catch on and
be out a ton of money. I understand there are no guaranties in
starting a business but I just think losing 5-10k is better than
100,000.00.
Speaking of waste systems--
Does a system that evaporates the water worth a flip? Its left
with a slug type material stored in drums that is picked up by a
waste disposal company?
I also hear this Odessa, Tx spill a lot in regards to a home brew
set ups, is there a link etc to this? My town gets its water
basically from the same place as Odessa and I've never heard of this
before. Since I'm in Odessa a lot is there some sort of records
office I could pop in and take a look at the case? I just would like
to know as much about what I'm up against if I choose to start my own
plating business.
I also have been thinking of Anodizing and wondered how I go about
finding someone who could safely dispose of the old acid? I hear
people say that a local disposal company wouldn't relieve you of any
responsibilities as fair as the EPA is concerned? Also can't the acid
just be neutralized and not cause any damage when disposing of it?
Thanks for your time and replies whether it's good or a flamer.
Raymond Hayes
Student - Midland, Texas, U.S.A
++++
Avoiding real chrome is always a good idea if the chemicals will
not be managed by trained professionals, but any
electroplating that you sell as a servive or as a plated part
makes you subject to
EPA 40 CFR 433 waste disposal permitting
requirements, Raymond. It's on line if you want to read it. It
doesn't matter what you or the vendor think is safe, it is all
regulated. Evaporation is probably okay as a rule, but still requires
permits. Further, it is best not to mix wastes, so you might need a
bunch of different evaporators.
Plating on plastic is a complicated procedure, however, so you
might consider a chrome-like paint for your plastic, such as offered
by Alsa or
Gold Touch. These have come
a long way in the last few years, and many OEM automobiles now come
with chrome-like paint on the wheels rather than real plating.
The Odessa superfund site was not a "home brew set up", but it was
a chrome plating shop operating out of a double garage. The liability
for costs case was tried in the Federal courthouse in Midland there;
I was involved. Here is one article
about the Odessa case that I found on-line.
Just as it was once thought safe to take drums of chemicals and
bury them, and the people who did it 40 years ago are paying the
costs of those wastes, today's disposal methods may not suit the
citizens of tomorrow. One problem is that you are responsible for the
waste forever.

Ted Mooney, P.E.
finishing.com Inc. - Brick,
NJ
++++
No plating system is environmentally safe! Some are worse than
others, namely chrome and cyanide based systems. Evaporation only
slightly works. eventually you get so much "salt" in it that it
virtually will not evaporate and is a miserable mess to clean. They
are more functional where you only need to reduce the liquid level
and plow back the filtered concentrate into the plating tank. This
will eventually kill the plating tank tho. (unless and except).
Plating is fully as much an art as a science. Who do you plan to
learn from? You will require a lab of sorts to control your tanks.
Are you a chemist or an experienced lab tech? Read the fine print of
any "hobby" system!! It will say" dispose of all material in
accordance with local, state and federal regulations". Some implied
information is flat out illegal. You will be fine until someone finds
out about your operation or you have an angry customer that turns you
in. Fines typically are from $500 to $5,000 per offense, per day,
plus costs. Something as simple as an unlabeled haz waste tank or a
label without a start date or a disposal record can bring many days
fines if they chose. AND multiple levels of government can levy
fines. Lastly, it is a dirty nasty business.
James Watts
- FL
Dear Reader: please choose what you want to do--
- I want to answer or follow-up on this subject
publicly (in non-commercial
fashion).
-
- My company is a supporting advertiser at
finishing.com and we want the contact information to reach
the inquirer privately.
-
- I want to post a new
question or inquiry of my own on
a different subject.
-
 |