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Best plating on porous aluminum castings

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Hi Friends,

Can you please suggest the best plating that can be done on a porous die-casted aluminium part (Heat sink). It should withstand 72 hours of salt spray.

Sumandeleted
vendor development - Bangalaore, Karnataka, India


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I'd say rather poor plating is the best plating that can be done on a porous die-cast aluminum part :-)

Seriously, Suman, any plateable metal can be plated on virtually any substrate -- the choice a question is based on why you are plating the part, not based on finding a plating that works on porous parts. It's possible to vacuum impregnate the castings to render them non porous. It's possible to anodize them, or paint them, or plate them with almost anything.

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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
finishing.com
Pine Beach, New Jersey


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Hi Ted, thanks for your reply. We cannot avoid porosity on castings. Vacuum impregnation was a good idea. I tried doing ENP on it. ENP doesn't stick on impregnated area. I tried Zinc. Zinc is not penetrating deep into the fins. I tried anodizing. I am not happy with the finish. Is there any other alternate. On porous surface plating fails very quickly. Corrosion starts from the porous surface; ultrasonic cleaning helps a bit but not 100%.

Regards,

Sumandeleted
- Bangalore


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What is wrong with chem film (Alodine, Iridite and etc)? What is wrong with anodize. Both are cheaper and should work for a heat sink.

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida


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Suman,

It should be obvious that porous parts will retain the plating solution and bleed after plating. As you are in B'lore, suggest contacting Mr K Vahanvala who is a professional plater and runs Saify Ind. He is your last hope of success.

asif_nurie Asif Nurie
- New Delhi, India


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Hi Asif,

I just saw this and had a rollicking good laugh over it! I'm already on Suman's black list as a plater who can't plate on porous parts! But Suman to answer your question; zincate, EN and Zinc Cobalt, seems to be the way to go ahead on this.

khozema Khozema Vahanwala
Saify Ind
 
Bangalore, Karnataka, India


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Vahanwala my Friend.

Need is the mother of invention. Everyone knows porous Surface will bleed after plating. We need to come out with an solution to overcome this. Please take back the word Blacklisted - I am still doing business with you & coming for all R&D work. No doubt you are the right person to give solution to my problem. Vahanwala, I want to come out of ENP fully.

Hi James, Anodizing & Chromating meets my functional requirements. But doesn't meet aesthetic requirements. Can I do some plating on top of anodized / chromated surface.

Regards,

Sumandeleted
- Bangalore


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You appear to have tried nearly everything and nothing is satisfactory. A zincate followed by a copper strike followed by a copper build followed by nickel may work, but that is a lot more expense and time and places for failure.

Better castings might be a more affordable way to go. Another thought would be to zincate and alkaline EN strike followed by a conventional EN. I doubt if it will meet your needs, but it is a last effort to try. PS, I hate castings and am not in love with bad extrusions.

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida


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If you were sand casting your situation would be hopeless but aluminum die casting MUST render a part with integrity and soundness. There must be something or many things wrong in your casting process. A quality management program for your castings is the answer not finding a miracle plater.

Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico


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For porous aluminium castings ...vacuum impregnation is best idea. It can withstand 250 degree temp...72 hr salt spray ..etc..

Sandeep Nandra
- Chandigarh, India

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