Manganese electroplating
(2004)
Hello,
I am an entry level engineer looking for some guidance. I am currently attempting to electroplate Mn on Mo wire. I want to use this for vapor deposition of Mn on lime glass. I am using manganese(II) sulphate, DI water, and sulphuric acid bath. Also using a Carbon Electrode and coating on 2 inch long .010/.015 diameter wire. My problem is that Mn does not want to deposit on the Mo wire. The clear solution turns a brown to black color and the carbon electrode(suppose to be inert) starts to dissolve away. Any body have some answers on why the carbon electrode is being eating away or maybe a company that might complete this task for my company.
Chris Lentry level engineer - Sweetwater, Texas
A. Hi Chris. For this problem please try to get access to Brenner's "Electrodeposition of Alloys". Manganese is extremely electronegative and very difficult to plate, but it is not completely impossible. Good luck.
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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET finishing.com Brick, New Jersey |
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A. Manganese plating solution:
manganese sulphate....100 gm
ammonium sulphate.....75 gm
ammonium rhodanide...60 gm
up to 28 A/dm2, 25 °C temp.
According to Praktische Galvanotechnik/Saulgau 1997.
Goran Budija- Zagreb, Croatia
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Q. Hello,
Thanks for the help and for an example of the bath used. It has been difficult finding literature for this and I have mostly been using the example of electroplating copper with the use of a copper sulfate bath. I found why my carbon electrode was eating away. Oxygen attacks the electrode and CO2 is given off. Does anyone have any economical ideas of an economical "inert" electrode material? I have only come up with PbO2.
Sincerely,
Chris Lentry level engineer - Sweetwater, Texas
A. Chris, Brenner suggests a lead-silver anode, but it really might be worth struggling to get access to the book because manganese, being difficult and tricky to plate, it is almost impossible to answer even simple questions with a reply of manageable length. For example, while Brenner says to try an anode of lead-silver, he then goes on to say "but be aware that ...." and many paragraphs about bags and diaphragms and pH differences between catholyte and anolyte, etc., then follow. Good luck.
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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET finishing.com Brick, New Jersey |
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A. For pure Mn, it should be not so difficult. Apply a higher current or voltage is necessary.
Some literature about Mn deposition are published in Journal of the Electrochemical Society [www.electrochem.org/dl/jes/]. I am working on Mn-Co co-deposition, and have a paper published recently in Journal of Power Sources.
- Morgantown, West Virginia
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Ed. note: Mr. Wu's article is abstracted and and full text can be purchased at www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378775307025645
July 4, 2012
Q. Hello,
I am an undergraduate student in Indonesia. I'm working on my final project about manganese electroplating. It's difficult to deposit manganese on stainless steel 430 substrate. I'm using 0.6 M manganese sulphate and 1 M ammonium sulphate solution with with current density up to 20 A/dm2 . The deposit product is like powder -- fragile, not adhesive with substrate, and easily removed. Is there any better way to do manganese electrodeposition? Why is it like that?
Thank you,
Best regards,
Fadly
- Indonesia
A. First, you say nothing about cleaning or activation steps. Both are required since SS oxidizes fairly rapidly.
Next, You really need to have a Woods strike. I like the formulation with higher HCl and lower Nickel chloride than most.
Get a copy of Safranek's book
Properties of Electrodeposited Metals and Alloys [link is to info about book at Amazon].
Lowenheim's
"Modern Electroplating" [link is to product info at Amazon] has a tiny bit, but may help.
- Navarre, Florida
October 10, 2012
hi, I can't take a hold of nitrates nor do I know any methods of forming any sizable metal compounds, but from what I have seen so far your methods involve metal ions that coat on top of a less reactive metal.
So why is it that you guys use nitrate solutions instead of an ionic solution?
What I do is perform electrolysis to collect an oxide (copper is my favorite), then add hydrochloric acid to form an ionic solution.
Copper (blue - green liquid depending on solution's concentration).
Also you should know that for an absolute coating you will require a current (I use would use the same metal as in solution, so if using copper both anode and cathode should be copper, and make sure that the metal being coated onto is less reactive then the metal used to coat,
e.g., copper plating aluminum is not possible because aluminum is more reactive than copper, whereas copper plating iron is possible because iron is about as reactive as copper.
But most importantly, write an exact chemical equation and a hypothesis of what might happen.
So, key point:
- current through ionic/nitrate solutions
- reactivity
- chemical equation and hypothesis
This response has been given by a secondary chemistry student, who has knowledge and experience in the process of electrolysis and electroplating. Thank you and I hope that this was useful.
cya and have a good time.
- australia
October 10, 2012
Thanks, Guillaume. I'm a bit confused because I didn't see anyone mention nitrate solutions, then you asked why they suggested nitrates :-)
Although I didn't completely understand you descriptions, you may be right that ionic liquids could be a better approach for plating manganese than traditional aqueous plating baths.
Regards,
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