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Letter 26076
Cyanide-free silver plating solutions
[Scotland]
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As a technologist with Rolls-Royce, I have been pursuing a cyanide
free silver plating solution which can adhere to a Woods nickel
strike and give adhesion equal to that of commercial cyanide based
solutions. Is it commercially, and chemically , feasible to produce a
silver chloride based cyanide-free plating solution utilizing
Potassium Chloride as an electrolyte for "throwing power"? Copper
Pyrophosphate and electroless nickel can not be used as strike
solutions for adhesion for the components I am looking to plate.
Nigel D Gill, B.Sc. MIMF
Technologist - Glasgow, South Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Hi
There is a bath in the USA from a proprietary maker that fits your
bill.
Ask around for the name as this column won't permit names.
Regards
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There is more than one available.
Technic's Cyless Silver was
probably the first. I think that it still requires a cyanide silver
strike for some applications. The Mfg can certainly tell you.
James Watts
- FL
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I have tried using
Technic's Cyless silver,
unfortunately it requires a copper pyrophosphate strike which IS NOT
allowed as a strike prior to silver plating on the components I have
as they are exposed to temperatures exceeding 500 degrees Celsius and
copper oxidizes above 350 degrees C. Also Electroless nickel cannot
be used as it is deemed to brittle. Silver Chloride based solutions
using KCl is more like what I am looking for to achieve coating
thickness of 7.62-12.7 microns.
Nigel Gill
- Blantyre, South Lanarkshire, Scotland
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One of the producers is EPI
(East Berlin, WI, USA) too (E 50/50 bath or something similar). Good
luck! and two recipes:40 gm AgCl 200 gm potassium ferrocyanide 20 gm
K2CO3 stainless steel anodes,1-5A/dm2, 80 C recipe 2:15-90 silver
pyrophosphate K4P2O7 100-350 gm ammonium carbonate 20-145 gm o,5-12
A/dm2, 18 C (recipes are from USSR literature)
Goran Budija
- Zagreb, Croatia
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A silver fluoborate bath would be interesting. I don't know if one
is possible, but I know that the chemical, "silver fluoborate"
exists. At least, here's a data sheet on it.
http://www.conncoll.edu/offices/envhealth/MSDS/chemistry/S/Silver-tetrafluoroborate.htm
You could probably make it by combining stoicheometric amounts of
Silver Carbonate and Fluoboric Acid. You can make, as a precipitate,
the Silver Carbonate with Silver Nitrate soln. and Sodium Carbonate
and agitation. You could even make the Nitric Acid-free Silver
Nitrate that's needed by dissolving 99.99% silver in good Nitric
Acid. The secret to acid-free is to add only enough acid to dissolve
90% of the silver metal present (hood). One gallon of Nitric Acid
will dissolve about 100 troy ounces of Silver. Boil at the end and
filter. The solution is reasonable pure Silver Nitrate. The purifying
of the silver is another story.
I have used Ni, Sn, and Cu Fluoborate baths, all with great
success. They are acid and bond well to most substrates, without a
strike, especially if you go in live. Their deposit characteristics
are excellent, also. They use soluble anodes and operate near 100%
efficiency. Copper is plated from a soln. of Copper Fluoborate only.
Nickel has about 4 oz/gal Boric Acid added. Tin has 3.3 oz/gal Boric
Acid and 20 oz/gal free Fluoboric Acid, plus some additives. The
metal contents of the 3 range from 8-10 oz/gal. The pH's range from
.2 to 3.5, depending on the metal used. Temps are from room temp. to
170F. Current densities are from 25-250 amp/sq.ft. Probably no
agitation should be used.
If it were me, I'd play with this bath, in beakers. It might work
great. It might not work at all. There may be some factor I'm not
aware of.
In the late 60's, we had a customer that was using Silver DMSO
baths to precision plate some critical electronic parts. I think they
had a patent on the process. I think it worked great. It could be
dangerous, though, since DMSO can take itself and other materials
through the skin. I don't know the adhesion properties of Silver from
DMSO baths.
Chris Owen
- Houston, TX, USA
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Dear Mr Nurie,
From your knowledge of this supplier can you tell me
1. Would I be able to achieve a coating thickness of 7.62-12.7
microns?
2. Does the solution provide adhesion superior or equal to that of
conventional cyanide based solutions?
The material I am plating is 12% Chromium Steel and can only have
a Woods Nickel Strike and Silver strike prior to silver plating.
Nigel Gill, B.Sc. MIMF AIEMA
MRSC
- Blantyre, South Lanarkshire, Scotland
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You can plate directly on SS with ferrocyanide bath (nontoxic
cyanide compound)!
Goran Budija
- Zagreb, Croatia
August 9, 2006
Goran Budija, is this Silver onto stainless steel using a
ferrocyanide bath?
Ka-Ming Liu
- Toronto, Ontario, Canada Chemicals to silver make more shine
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August 16, 2007
i am industrialist.my job is to make silver wire more shine by
less using silver.so my question is that which another chemical can i
use to make silver more shine.
jariwala vinod
businessman - surat,gujarat,india
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