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Letter 22177
Old Copper Fire
Extinguishers
(2003)
I found a couple of those old presumably copper water
filled fire extinguishers in my grand fathers attic...can
some one tell me how to polish them, I've seen them about
and they are quite the eye catcher...I've rubbed endlessly
with little results.
Warmest regards and thank you,
Bene B [last name deleted for privacy due to age
of posting]
- Orland Park, IL, USA
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They are good looking units aren't they. I have one hanging on my
living room wall for many years now. These were baking soda, acid
fire extinguishers. To activate you turned them upside down, dumping
the baking soda into the acid water. You can easily see this effect
by putting baking soda into vinegar in your kitchen.
The results of the mixing were the production of Carbon dioxide
gas, and pressure to propel the liquid at the fire, and some
extinguishing through the production of the carbon dioxide.
Many of these old copper and brass extinguishers were coated with
lacquer to retain their brightness as they hung in both the office
and shop areas of businesses.
Try first washing the outside with either
lacquer thinner [link is to product info at Amazon],
MEK / methyl ethyl ketone [link is to product info at Amazon], or
Acetone [link is to product info at Rockler]. BE EXTREMELY
CAREFUL, as all of these are highly flammable solvents. Be sure to
remove the hose as these solvents will eat the rubber hose alive.
Then after removal of the lacquer coating polish with a good quality
copper and brass cleaner. To keep it looking nice for many years
thereafter, re-apply the clear lacquer coat
Hope that helps !
Martin M [last name deleted for privacy due to age of
posting]
sports mfg. - St. Louis, MO, USA
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I want to shine up four antique brass and copper fire
extinguishers. I am strictly a hobbyist. They are now highly
tarnished. I am a bit worried about some advice that I just
got, and would like to check it out. I was told to evenly
wipe a coat of muriatic acid onto the extinguishers. Then to
rinse them with a hose. Then to Use something called
Nutra Sol, mixed with water, to
neutralize the acid, and rinse it down again. I would
obviously do this outside, and wearing protective gloves and
clothing. What is your advice? Will it work, or will I not
be able to neutralize all the acid? Is there a better agent
to use than muriatic acid? What would you recommend as a
base to neutralize the acid. I appreciate your advice and
will take it.
Thank you very much.

Melvin M [last name deleted for privacy due to age
of posting]
hobbyist - Burke, Virginia, USA
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I have cleaned up several of them and they were very tarnished i
just used a cleanser polish the one i used was
called
Barkeepers Friend [link is to product info at Amazon]. it
is specifically for copper brass stainless It is a powder form i used
this to take the heavy tarnish off then i followed up with a liquid
polish called Brasso [link is to product info at Amazon] and
yes you will have to rub and rub and rub a lot just takes a little
time if you have patience I'm sure you can do it
Chris I [last name deleted for privacy due to age of
posting]
- Irvine Ca U.S.A
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The best way to get a great shine on those brass or chrome
extinguishers is to take them to a metal polishing shop. Just make
sure to tell them that the wheel has to turn AWAY from the edges of
any of the labels. Then have them dip them in the clear coat that
they use. Should cost you about $60.00 tops,but you will have an
unbelievable finish that will last for years.
Ronald R [last name deleted for privacy due to age of
posting]
- Pomona, Calif
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When I was in the Navy we used never dull and bug juice (kool aid)
usually yellow or orange color due to the color. It worked well for
navy copper and brass. Never used it on fire extinguishers.
Good luck.
Brian O [last name deleted for privacy due to age of
posting]
- Highspire, PA, USA
April 11, 2007
Hi Bene,
I'm not sure from the date of your original post if you've done
anything to that copper extinguisher, but if you're still deciding, I
have to agree with Ronald P., from Pomona, Calif. I worked at a metal
polishing shop and I restored two very similar old copper "Alert"
extinguishers while I worked there. They came out looking fantastic.
I converted them into floor lamps and I use them to this day. One
sits next to me at my computer!! I did them over seven years ago and
they still look incredible. So, I'd suggest taking it to a good shop,
you'll save yourself a ton of time and it'll come out looking tens
times better than if you did it yourself. Be sure to have it spray
lacquered (several coats)immediately after it is polished, the shop
should be able to do that as well. If you do get this message, you
should update us on which decision you made, and send in a photo of
how the extinguisher turned out. I'd be interested... Good luck with
it.
David De Ridder
- East Quogue, NY, USA
May 7, 2007
Do not use MEK. This solvent though very good is highly hazardous,
you need to use a protective mask, goggles, and gloves. You can use a
very mild acid to clean off highly tarnished areas. Again follow
directions carefully.
Howard Richards
- Ingleside, IL, USA
August 6, 2007
Yes, MEK is absorbed through the skin and can cause liver
failure... nasty stuff... when i polished mine i used Top Brite...
its non abrasive and works wonders on brass, copper, silver, gold
pretty much anything.
Can anyone tell me what kind of acid was used in these
extinguishers?
Brian James
- Boston Massachusetts
August 10, 2007
Vinegar is an acid and fairly mild. That is used for acetic mild
reactions(about 20%). A stronger acid would producer a larger
reaction, causing more pressure.
2 safe ways to clean brass, copper, gold, or most tarnished items,
start with pepper sauce. Yes, Tabasco!! it cleans it very well (it
has vinegar in it) and follow up with mayonnaise, which has vinegar
too. The oil in it will leave a gloss. This will protect the finish.
it is a regular item, need to polish often, after all, it is copper
and/or brass.
Norman Stephan
- Atlanta, GA USA
September 6, 2007
I have the same one almost, it had a green paint on it that I
thought was tarnish,so I wheeled it like I would do a truck aluminum
fuel tank.I put my 2 vector variable speed angle grinder-polishers in
2 vises. one with a yellow united pacific 8' airway pad the other
with a united white pad, i use a 2 lb block of jacksonlea brown
(tripoli) rouge with the yellow pad which is course to get the heavy
stuff off then a jacksonlea green 2 lb block to take the swirl marks
out, then wipe polish with my Brooklyn ball busters best aluminum
polish and a terry cloth rag, when it's cool /damp out it take a few
minutes to dry, a old timer showed me a shortcut, i get a coffee can
and fill it with flour, i dip a dry rag in the flour and wipe it
off.
the flour pulls the oxidation out a little better, dries it off
faster and keeps your hands cleaner.
DON'T BUFF TO HARD, I found out that they're not really copper, mine
is copper coated.
happy polishing.
Rick
Richard Masculine
- Middletown, NY
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January 6, 2008
I have a 2.5 gallon Elkhart Brass extinguisher that has
recently developed pin holes and a white powder-like
substance on the outside. I assume that the acid water and
soda may still be in it. How do I clean this? or to whom do
I take it? Thanks for any advice.
Roger Gombert
- Stockton, CA, USA
April 28, 2008
I just picked up 5 of these copper extinguishers to clean
up and hang in my Fire Station. I've been using
Brasso [link is to product info at Amazon], a Dremel
with polishing pads, and towels for a combo of power and
hand polish. Works Great
Tim Jones
- Newington, CT, USA
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May 6, 2008
Hi,
I used a bottle of ketchup on a very tarnished large copper
cow weather vane. I wasn't even sure it was copper, it was
so tarnished. Brush the ketchup on and let it stand for
about 30 mins, rinse, then polish it up! No gloves or
goggles necessary.
Connie Cleek
- Louisburg, KS, USA
August 1, 2008
I recently bought an old extinguisher and I liked the
patina or tarnished look on it. My husband cleaned and
polished it. I want the patina back on it. How do I do that?
And if it was worth anything is it worthless now?
Jacklyn Ewry
- Greenfield, Ohio United States
August 4, 2008
Hi, Jacklyn. It will not stay bright if it's not
lacquered, so you won't have to wait long for it to loose
the lustre. You could just leave it be for a month or two.
But you can accelerate the tarnishing by spritzing with
vinegar and salt, or even a very dilute washing with liver
of sulphur (this can turn it brown-black very quickly).
If this were a Roman coin or a civil war artifact,
removing the tarnish could seriously devalue it. These fire
extinguishers are cute old collectible items, but they are
not precious, and I seriously doubt that anyone considers
the natural tarnish to be of historic value. Maybe in
another hundred years. For now, some people prefer bright
and some people prefer tarnished.
Regards,
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Ted Mooney, P.E.
finishing.com
Brick, New Jersey
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