Potassium gold cyanide

Letter 2236

Potassium gold cyanide

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I am conducting a feasibility study on the production of potassium gold cyanide. I need information about the ff:
a. how to produce potassium gold cyanide
b. uses of potassium gold cyanide
c. cost per gram

Thank you very much.

Concepcion S. Villaverde
Metals Industry R&D Center - Gen. Santos Ave. Bicutan, Taguig, Metro Manila

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I have the same question about this topics a few months ago. I haven't got a complete book or literature that explain producing PGC. However through some experiment with a limited literature I produce PGC. The quality of PGC (percentage and purity) is still not known yet, but I have use several month in my gold plating bath without a problem.

Next is how I make PGC :

1. Make aquaregia (75% HCL + 25% HNO3) from high grade chemical.

2. Introduce the Gold (24 kt) in bulk or small piece in warm aquaregia for fast soluble. (gold : aquaregia is about 1 : 5 weight).

3. Heat the solution, don't exceed 85 degree Celcius.

4. A long heating introduce excess HCL.

5. Heat and evaporated until you got a concentrate like syrup that is Gold Chloride.

6. Gold chloride will become cristall when you cool the syrup.

7. Introduce a little water to disolve the gold chloride.

8. Make amonia solution of 30 ml Amonia in 100 ml water cocentration. (use high grade amonia).

9. Pour the amonia slowly to Gold Chloride until Ph=8. You will get the precipitate that call Gold Fulminating. Be carefull with the Fulminating, It should not to dry because it is Highly Explosive Danger !

10. Wash the Precipitate to remove excess amonia. Wash several time until PH reach near 7.

11. Make another concentrate Potasium Cyanide solution (KCN).

12. Pour the KCN to Fulminating Gold slowly with agitation until all the fulminating disolve. You Got a solution name Mother Liquor.

13. Heat the Mother Liquor, my experience not over 65 degree celcius. Evaporate amonia from mother liquor until no amonia smell anymore.

14. Cristallize the PGC by continue evaporation. Vacum will be very helpfull. You don't need to evaporate all the mother liquor. Until you evaporate about 75% volume stop the process. Collect the PGC and keep the mother liquor. Dry the PGC by vacum. Mother liquor still can be use in the next production by mixed it with the next Fulminating.

15. Do the all the process in very good ventilation. Good luck.

Any idea and correction about my process will be welcome.

Anton Bijosono - PT.CITRA SELARAS HARMONI - INDONESIA

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Could any one please tell me the type of Potassium Cyanide used in casting gold and plating, 151-50-8 and 554-07-4. Also what type of Nickel Sulfate is best used. What is the best source for these in the US?

Torry Mathews
- Ohio

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Wow! The detail of the response to the PGC question was incredible. Thanks to you, Anton.

Now everyone knows why it pays to buy your gold salts ready made in precisely weighed quantities. I would not take the chance of making one mistake and ruining the batch, even with the price of gold as low as it is. I prefer to let the refiners at Technic, LeaRonal, and the rest of them worry about the QC. And the technical advice from those vendors on how to run the plating bath isn't half bad either.

Bill Vins
microwave & cable assemblies
Mesa (what a place-a), Arizona

Mr. Mathews: the short answer is that in the U.S. you buy such supplies from the major vendors of plating supplies, and that you can usually find them listed under Plating Supplies in your Yellow Pages, or here in our Directory of Chemicals.

Ted Mooney, P.E.
finishing.com
Brick, New Jersey

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I want to know more in detail about the potassium gold cyanide or gold cyanide. Please do reply to me and tell me what are the steps involved and what kind of stuff I will need to get this done. Thank you very much

Mark
BLACK KNIGHTS - Malaysia

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Could someone please tell me "using cyanide heap leaching to extract gold from mining sites is a safe practice????" as soon as u can plsss.. thankyou very much...

batmuc tran
curtin university of technology - perth WA australia

Mr. Tran: Your inquiry posted here is on a website for the metal finishing industry. I have no experience or expertise to qualify me to answer your question, and I suspect that the same will prove true for nearly all of our readers. You might try posting to some kind of mining site.

Ted Mooney, P.E. - finishing.com - Brick, NJ

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I'm having a project and I have thought about how to make ammonia out of flowers. Could you please tell me how to make one? Thats all thanx~! Melvin

Melvin John N. Sedano
Student - Dhahran, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

Ed. note: That certainly shines a different light on "take time to smell the flowers".

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I am glad to see the discussion about potassium gold cyanide. I am also conducting a study about PGC, but focus on the treatment of the used goldplating solutions.

Thank you very much.

James Huang
Mutual-Tek - Taipei, Taiwan

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Dear All,

I am a master student and my project is about potasium gold cyanide and I need to have more information if you advise some web site, book or any search about that I will appreciate.

Thanks,

Nuket Cakit
- Istanbul, TURKEY

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I'm studying Potassium gold cyanide too.It is two way:chemical and electronic.The chemical way uses potassium cyanide solution gold directly. In lots of books I read it.But its rates is too slowly.I don't the reason. Do you know how the way should do? Moreover my electronic way already finished. But the publition have color. I don't know the reason.Who can tell me.

Thanks very much.

Zhouwei
IPM - China

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When making PGC, the fulminate-mother liquor steps you should use ammonium OXALATE instead of ammonia. The gold-nitrogen bond(s) formed by using ammonia become a heat-, friction- and impact-sensitive explosive when dry, similar to the related mercury and silver compounds.

Steve Koelzer
- Sunnyvale, CA USA

Gold Salt (GPC)

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Good night!!

In first place I want to ask excuses for the graphic mistakes, because I am writing with an electronic translator's help. I would like to know as I do to get information of the process of obtaining of the salt of gold (GPC). This process is little known in my country and consequently there are not any literatures on the same.

Certain of your attention Marivaldo Xavier Amazonas-Brazil

Marivaldo Xavier
Student - Manaus, Amazonas, Brasil

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re: Anton Bijono potassium cyanide production.

The gold cyanide produced by your method does not work well with our plating formulation, could you provide us with your gold plating recipe for trial many thanks.

Hudon,Claude
Plating shop - Gatineau, Quebec, Canada

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KAu(CN)2 can be made very efficiently and pure by the anodic dissolution of metallic gold in a KCN solution. A membrane separates the cathode to prevent cathodic plating of the dissolved gold.
If the process is run hot, very pure KAu(CN)2 precipitates on cooling. The mother liquor, after replenishing with KCN, is used for the next batch.

Walther Grot
- Rockland, DE, USA

October 26, 2008

How do you make the KCN?

Yuri Cohen
- Bak\'a, Jerusalem, Israel

December 27, 2008

what is best procedure for make PGC
and what's effect PGC in human body

Mohand Saed
- Sudan

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